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House of Commons · General Debate

Crown Estate Bill [Lords] 2025-02-24

24 February 2025 · 28 other contributors

Opened by Llinos Medi PC Ynys Môn

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At a glance

Llinos Medi raised concerns about crown estate bill [lords] 2025-02-24 in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Concerns raised about transferring management of the Crown Estate in Wales to the Welsh Government to ensure profits from natural resources stay within Wales.
  • The Minister acknowledges concerns but argues that devolving Crown Estate powers would disrupt existing investments and delay UK-wide grid connectivity reform.
  • The Minister highlights potential economic benefits from offshore wind developments and stresses the importance of maintaining a unified energy market.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Llinos Medi PC Ynys Môn

The new clause transfers management of the Crown Estate in Wales to the Welsh Government within two years. This ensures that profits generated from natural resources stay within Wales, addressing historical exploitation and current economic challenges such as child poverty. The value of the Crown Estate has increased significantly over five years, but all profits are transferred to the Treasury rather than benefiting local communities. Scotland's devolution of its Crown Estate in 2017 is cited as a successful precedent for similar implementation in Wales.

Other contributors (28)
  • Llinos Medi PC Ynys Môn

    Proposes that the Welsh Government should control and benefit from natural resources within two years of the Act's commencement. Emphasises historical exploitation and current issues such as child poverty at 34.4% by end of decade. Highlights Scotland’s successful devolution in 2017, advocating for similar implementation in Wales.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    The fishing sector in Northern Ireland could be impacted by measures taken for net zero development, such as wind farms. The Crown Estate must consider the effects on fishing when leasing and consenting.

  • Liz Saville Roberts PC Dwyfor Meirionnydd

    Devolution of the Crown Estate to Wales would ensure local supply chains are used, keeping money in Wales. This is critical for communities like Milford Haven where renewable development will be crucial.

  • Ben Lake PC Ceredigion Preseli

    Devolution of the Crown Estate could look at what is happening in Scotland as a model, addressing practicalities and ensuring local economic benefits. This would involve regional strategies for renewable energy projects.

  • Proposes an amendment to limit the Crown Estate’s borrowing power to no more than a net debt-to-asset value ratio of 25%, arguing that this is necessary to prevent overreach and ensure parliamentary oversight. Also, suggests new clauses for transparency regarding asset disposals and partnership agreements with GB Energy.

  • Matt Rodda Lab Reading Central

    Supports the Bill as an important step towards tackling climate change and ensuring energy security. Argues against amendments 3 and 5 and new clauses 5 and 6, stating that they would reduce flexibility for the Crown Estate in managing its assets and potentially harm business interests.

  • Pippa Heylings LD South Cambridgeshire

    Supports the Bill while calling for financial accountability, proportionate borrowing caps, protection of nature in marine environments, and community benefits. Argues that the Liberal Democrat amendments aim to ensure the bill delivers both environmental and social benefits.

  • The amendment seeks to clearly define sustainable development in the Crown Estate’s framework agreement, including a climate and nature duty. The speaker argues that this is necessary for accountability, economic benefits, environmental protection, and ensuring local communities benefit from large-scale developments.

  • Sureena Brackenridge Lab Wolverhampton North East

    Supports the Bill, arguing it will enable the Crown Estate to borrow, invest and back long-term projects that deliver real benefits for communities. Emphasises its potential economic impact in Wolverhampton North East through job creation, apprenticeships and manufacturing opportunities.

  • James Naish Lab Rushcliffe

    Questions Mrs Brackenridge about the Bill's impact on jobs and opportunities for young people. Emphasises the economic growth of the net zero sector compared to the overall UK economy, highlighting the need to seize this opportunity.

  • Chris Vince Lab/Co-op Harlow

    Agrees with Mrs Brackenridge that removing outdated restrictions on the Crown Estate will benefit constituents across the country by allowing greater return for the public purse and driving economic growth through local communities.

  • Steff Aquarone LD North Norfolk

    Supports amendment 3 regarding coastal erosion, advocating for protections similar to those given to energy infrastructure in Happisburgh. Highlights the need for fairness towards communities living alongside renewable energy infrastructure and the importance of protecting against climate change impacts.

  • Jayne Kirkham Lab/Co-op Truro and Falmouth

    Supports the Bill, highlighting potential benefits for Truro and Falmouth from floating offshore wind. The MP mentions a CBI report showing green economy growth three times faster than national average with higher wages.

  • David Chadwick LD Brecon, Radnor and Cwm Tawe

    Expresses frustration over the Government's refusal to devolve Crown Estate powers to Wales. The MP argues that profits generated in Welsh waters should benefit local communities rather than flowing directly to the UK Treasury.

  • Jim Allister TUV North Antrim

    Opposes new clause 7, which seeks devolution of the Crown Estate to Northern Ireland. The MP argues that the current Stormont Executive is incapable of handling such controversies due to unresolved historical issues involving Lough Foyle.

  • Concerned about the impact on fishing fleets in Portavogie, Ardglass and Kilkeel. Requests assurances from the Minister that any development will not harm the fishing sector's sustainability.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Mr. Shannon emphasises his support for renewable energy but expresses concern about the sustainability of the fishing industry in Kilkeel and Ardglass due to Crown Estate activities. He also highlights additional red tape faced by local councils when dealing with the Crown Estate, while acknowledging its social impact through initiatives like homelessness schemes. Mr. Shannon requests assurances that existing relationships are not compromised for new developments.

  • Ben Lake PC Ynys Môn

    Mr. Lake questions whether the devolution of Crown Estate powers to Scotland has fragmented the market and been detrimental, challenging the Minister's stance on similar proposals for Wales.

  • Liz Saville Roberts PC Dwyfor Meirionnydd

    Ms. Roberts seeks quantifiable benefits of retaining Crown Estate powers in their current form and questions whether the Minister can provide such specifics.

  • Liz Saville Roberts PC Dwyfor Meirionnydd

    Ms. Roberts criticises the Minister's argument, suggesting it is an extraordinary claim that Wales cannot benefit from Crown Estate devolution. She questions whether the Minister has discussed this with Welsh Labour.

  • James Murray Con Bexleyheath and Crayford

    Mr. Murray clarifies his point, stating that a devolved entity in Wales would be starting from scratch at a critical juncture of commercial investment processes. He supports the Crown Estate's role in advancing energy capacity and increasing net profits.

  • Llinos Medi PC Ceredigion

    Ms. Medi highlights that the Barnett formula is not fair for Wales, referencing a Scottish model where £10 million was taken out of the block grant but communities received £103 million back as a fair exchange.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Mr. Shannon seeks assurance that ambitious net zero targets will not negatively impact the fishing sector in Northern Ireland and asks for direct contact with the Northern Ireland commissioner regarding fishing concerns.

  • James Murray Con Bexleyheath and Crayford

    Mr. Murray reassures Mr. Shannon about the Crown Estate's commitment to sustainable management of the seabed, including environmental assessments and adherence to marine plans. He also emphasises that the Bill will not impact commercial fishing activities directly.

  • Pippa Heylings Con South Cambridgeshire

    Ms. Heylings expresses willingness to withdraw the new clause but seeks reassurance regarding a potential review of the memorandum of understanding between the Crown Estate and Marine Management Organisation due to new investment powers.

  • James Wild Con North West Norfolk

    Proposes new clause 5 to impose a requirement for the Crown Estate to seek Treasury consent before disposing of assets valued at 10% or more of its total assets in any year, and new clause 6 to mandate the Chancellor to lay partnership agreements with Great British Energy before Parliament.

  • Llinos Medi Lab Vale of Clwyd

    Argues that devolving the Crown Estate to Wales could lead to greater alignment with Welsh economy and strengthen local supply chains, citing a £700 million investment in Scotland as evidence. Criticises lack of ambition from Labour Government regarding child poverty reduction.

  • There is support across the House for the aims of the Bill, which will deliver the modernisation that the Crown Estate needs, and should generate greater returns for the Exchequer. However, we are disappointed that the Government have resisted our proposals for greater transparency and appropriate parliamentary oversight, including on borrowing.

Government Response

The Minister acknowledges the concerns raised by MPs and outlines that the Government has made changes to the Bill, including ensuring appropriate protections for seabed disposal. He explains that devolving Crown Estate powers to Wales would disrupt existing investments and delay UK-wide grid connectivity reform. The Minister also highlights potential economic benefits from offshore wind developments and emphasises the importance of maintaining a unified energy market. Mr. Murray outlines that the Government believes the existing structure is best for advancing energy capacity, increasing Crown Estate net profits, and supporting public services in Wales. He also emphasises the collaboration between the Crown Estate and Marine Management Organisation. The minister reassures the House that strong safeguards are already in place to ensure the Crown Estate maintains and enhances its estate, and opposes new clause 5 arguing it undermines flexibility for commercial operations. Also argues against transparency of partnership agreements citing commercial sensitivity. The central aim of the Bill has been to ensure that the Crown Estate has a sustainable future for decades to come. Through these targeted and measured changes to its founding legislation, particularly in respect of its investment and borrowing powers, the Government are building on the Crown Estate’s strong track record of success in creating long-term prosperity for the nation. The measures will unlock more long-term investment, helping to drive growth across the UK.

Shadow Response

None

The Bill was developed to provide the Crown Estate with broader borrowing powers, aiming to increase revenue and enhance asset value. The Welsh functions of the Crown Estate are not suitable for devolution at present due to licensing complexities in the Celtic Sea that could undermine returns for taxpayers. There is support across the House for the aims of the Bill, which will deliver the modernisation that the Crown Estate needs, and should generate greater returns for the Exchequer. However, we are disappointed that the Government have resisted our proposals for greater transparency and appropriate parliamentary oversight, including on borrowing.

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