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Will the Home Secretary confirm that our immigration policy will apply throughout the entirety of the UK?
Minister reply
The approach is for both immigration and asylum to apply right across the UK, recognising the importance of border security as part of a UK-wide approach.
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When will we get a Scottish visa to address our issues?
Minister reply
Our immigration and asylum system applies right across the UK. When net migration soared under the previous Government, it did not address labour market issues in Scotland. That is why we need a proper strategy that addresses the labour market issues.
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Does she agree that we should work out more sustainable safe routes for asylum seekers?
Minister reply
The UK must always do its bit to help those who have fled persecution. No one should be making this dangerous journey on a boat across the channel and being exploited by criminal gangs.
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How many of those deported since she came into office had crossed into the UK on small boats?
Minister reply
They never decided any asylum cases, so could not return anyone who arrived on a small boat because their system was broken. We are now clearing that backlog and substantially increasing returns compared with the total failure under her Government.
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Why do people want to come across the channel from France, which is a lovely country where many people enjoy holidaying, and how will the Bill specifically help reduce the number of individuals who make that journey?
Minister reply
The challenge has been escalating for six years due to the development of an exploitative criminal industry promising illegal work opportunities. The Bill aims to strengthen border security by bringing different agencies together under a unified command structure, enhancing law enforcement capabilities against traffickers.
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Which metric should be used and by what date to ascertain whether the Home Secretary has succeeded in reducing illegal immigration?
Minister reply
The purpose is clear: reduce illegal migration and boat crossings. We must take action against criminal gangs, which the hon. Gentleman's party seems reluctant to support, risking further exploitation of vulnerable individuals.
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What will be in this Bill to support safe routes for migrants?
Minister reply
The primary focus is on pursuing criminal gangs undermining border security and putting lives at risk. While the government supports those fleeing persecution, ensuring that Governments—not gangs—choose who enters our country prevents exploitation by traffickers.
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What measures are being taken to remove incentives for illegal immigration and what role will Border Force have between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic?
Minister reply
The common travel area means different approaches. We have increased resources for enforcement, returns by 24%, and illegal working raids by 38%. The Bill introduces offences targeting those involved in serious crime and small boats used to endanger lives.
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How will these new laws apply to individuals outside UK jurisdiction?
Minister reply
The measures aim to tackle the criminal gangs within our jurisdiction, including strengthening law enforcement capabilities and introducing stricter penalties for those involved in human trafficking.
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The Home Secretary mentions asylum hotels. The Government have actually opened more asylum hotels since they have been in office. Can she give us a date when she will have met her manifesto commitment to close the last asylum hotel?
Minister reply
I would just point out that the previous Conservative government opened 400 hotels, and this government has already cut the cost of asylum accommodation substantially. We continue to do so and also clear the backlog created by collapsing decisions in the run-up to the election.
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The shadow Home Secretary seems keen to reflect on the records of Governments. In 2010, the number of people in the asylum system reached an over-20-year low. By the time the Conservative Government had left office, the number had ballooned by 13 times to 225,000. Will he reflect on who was responsible for that?
Minister reply
The previous Labour government provided an effective asylum amnesty and is therefore partially responsible for the current backlog.
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In 2018, only 400 people crossed. On the Conservative Government's watch, this number rose to 130,000. Will the shadow Home Secretary apologise?
Minister reply
The numbers were going down under previous government policies but have increased since July last year.
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Does the Opposition believe that using language like ‘surrender’ contributes to finding a solution?
Minister reply
The Bill creates citizenship for illegal migrants and cancels removal obligations, which is why we consider it shocking. We do not think such measures are conducive to solving the issue.
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Why does the Opposition oppose the Border Security Commander’s powers?
Minister reply
The Border Security Commander lacks clear enforcement powers, merely having the ability to publish documents and reports. This is unlikely to disrupt people smuggling networks effectively.
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Does the Opposition misrepresent the National Crime Agency's stance on Rwanda?
Minister reply
The NCA has stated that a deterrent effect is needed, and the removal of Rwandan scheme provisions undermines this principle.
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What was observed during visits to Rwanda regarding potential asylum seekers?
Minister reply
Visits confirmed that Rwanda would provide well-looked-after conditions for asylum seekers, potentially deterring illegal crossings. However, the Government’s decision not to implement it renders these observations moot.
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Is outsourcing asylum policy to Rwanda ethical?
Minister reply
For genuine refugees from conflict zones, this country has a proud history of providing refuge. However, those crossing illegally by people smugglers should not be facilitated entry.
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I welcome this important Bill, which will introduce new counter-terror-style powers to identify, disrupt and smash the people smuggling gangs... I want to focus on an extremely important aspect of the Bill that has gone largely overlooked, and on which I have been campaigning for change. Clauses 43 and 44 will introduce new offences to clamp down on the rise of 3D-printed firearms, which is a serious threat.
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We all want to stop the dangerous channel crossings, wherever we sit on the political spectrum. There are some measures proposed in the Bill that we on the Liberal Democrat Benches support, some that we do not think will be effective enough, and some that we will seek to amend in Committee.
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The Bill paves the way to end 14 years of gimmicks and sticking-plaster politics. Despite spending £700 million on the Rwanda scheme, which saw 84,000 people arriving in small boats from its introduction to scrapping, what does the Bill aim to achieve?
Minister reply
The Bill seeks to close gaps by granting law enforcement agencies counter-terror-style powers to tackle organised immigration crime. It ensures that while protecting borders and addressing criminality, vulnerable individuals are offered the protection they deserve.
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How do we solve this problem together as a country? What is your view on the effectiveness of the Government's approach?
Minister reply
Experience shows that detaining and deporting individuals can be effective in controlling people smugglers, but current measures like the scrapped Rwanda scheme are ineffective. The Bill aims to address such issues by scaling up law enforcement and border security checks.
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Karen Bradley acknowledges the complexity of illegal immigration and expresses hope for successful implementation of the Bill. She highlights the need for global cooperation, raising concerns about endangering life at sea measures, biometric testing, and protection for victims of modern slavery.
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Olivia Bailey supports the Bill as a step towards regaining control over borders after previous failures. She underscores the importance of balancing compassion with control, stressing that illegal crossings undermine national security and public services.
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The Home Secretary's rhetoric is welcome but lacks substance. Since taking office, Labour has seen key metrics deteriorate; the new Border Security Command will merely write plans and present accounts without compelling other organisations to act. The Bill removes more power than it puts on the table. Until the Government provides a credible alternative for returning failed asylum seekers, they are undermining their own criticism of Conservatives. This is a missed opportunity with words but no action.
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Commits support to Government efforts addressing border security, criticising Reform UK for pitting working people against each other. Supports use of counter-terrorism tactics to limit criminal gangs' operations, contrasting with previous government's £700 million spent on failed Rwanda scheme.
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The Bill's approach is the same old, tired, failed method. It does nothing to address structural problems coming from population stagnation and decline.
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The hon. Member for Edinburgh East and Musselburgh raises the issue that Scotland's population is growing in some areas while declining in others, which highlights the need to address regional disparities.
Minister reply
Pete Wishart acknowledges that Scottish Labour supports a Scottish visa but emphasises the need for Scotland to have specific tools to manage its immigration issues. He calls on Labour Members to think again about what is needed across the UK.
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The hon. Member for Clapham and Brixton Hill commends some reforms in the Bill, such as scrapping the plan to expel asylum seekers to Rwanda, but criticises other aspects that could criminalise people or lead to increased immigration detention costs.
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The hon. Member for Bromsgrove highlights the need for legislation to strengthen the nation's response to illegal immigration, citing a 28% increase in channel crossings since July compared to the same period last year.
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I think that everybody across the House wants to see small boat crossings diminish and hopefully conclude entirely. Likewise, I think that most people across the House feel that we need to have a fair, robust and effective way to deal with illegal immigration.
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These points are obviously going to come from Conservative Members. Have they read the comments of the noble Lord Winston in the other place on 27 November 2023, when he outlined that while scientific equipment may be used, the analysis that comes from bone density checks or X-rays is entirely flawed? The results depend on the calcium deposits and the food that was eaten by the person being X-rayed, as well as other health reasons. Has the hon. Gentleman read those comments?
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What are the Minister and the Government doing to address the issue of people coming in through the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic?
Minister reply
My understanding from the Minister earlier was that the Bill would work across all borders coming into the United Kingdom—I am sure that will be clarified later.
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How many of those deported in the past seven months had arrived in a small boat? The Bill does not deliver an effective removals and deterrence strategy. It is repealing provisions that would have stopped those who enter the UK illegally from claiming asylum.
Minister reply
The Government are taking back control with this Bill, which will help turn the page on failure, restore order to our borders and protect the country we serve.
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How can we address people’s concerns about immigration and border security in a way that is firm but compassionate, just and in line with our values?
Minister reply
The Bill will allow us to use intelligence to take action against smuggling gangs before they can operate on our shores, just as we do with terrorists.
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The Bill, which has been welcomed by the National Crime Agency and the new Border Security Commander, delivers the measures required to tackle smuggling gangs... It means that those engaged in people smuggling will be viewed as a global security threat, in the same way as terrorists...
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I will be voting against the Bill and in favour of the reasoned amendment, for the simple reason that I do not believe this Bill will do anything to smash the gangs... Over the past 14 years and beyond, we have had a great track record of taking in refugees from areas of conflict and other places, but by cheating the system, thousands of illegal migrants are entering the country...
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The shadow minister criticised the Government's approach on illegal immigration, stating that it undermines the nation's ability to control its borders and protect those in need.
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Welcomed the Government’s commitment to scrapping the Rwanda plan but criticised the narrative around immigration, highlighting austerity's role in economic issues rather than migration. Emphasised the importance of tackling systemic issues and nurturing humanity instead of hatred.
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Asked critical questions about the effectiveness of Border Security Command, pointing out the lack of concrete results in reducing illegal immigration despite promises and strategic leadership claims. Questioned the Bill's ability to provide necessary deterrents against migrants.
Minister reply
The default answer given was that the Border Security Command is providing cross-system strategic leadership across partners.
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Why does this Bill weaken the law by allowing illegal immigrants to claim asylum, live off benefits and become British citizens? Also, how does it hinder enforcement?
Minister reply
The Home Secretary was unable to provide a detailed response but indicated that the Government is committed to addressing illegal immigration through other means.
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How will this Bill tackle organised crime networks involved in human trafficking?
Minister reply
The Bill aims to give law enforcement agencies the necessary powers to combat smuggling networks, addressing the issue of illegal immigration through stronger legal measures.
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My constituents do not object to immigration per se, and it is a myth that people who voted for Brexit did so purely on the basis of racism—far from it. People across my constituency want a fair immigration system, in which people stand in turn and come to this country fairly. Where the system has fallen down, and we now see ever increasing numbers of people choosing to come here illegally across the channel, we must have a deterrent to deal with the issue. Without that, we will continue to see and feel the effects of too many people coming into our country illegally.
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Turning specifically to the Bill, it repeals the Safety of Rwanda (Asylum and Immigration) Act 2024 and the Illegal Migration Act 2023. Much has been said about these two pieces of legislation, but what I see in front of me in this Bill amounts to sheer madness. It means that asylum seekers can refuse to take a scientific age assessment and consequently no longer be treated as over 18.
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As others have spoken about the specific measures in this Bill, I will take a step back and talk about the ideas that underpin it. There have been grumblings tonight that we are aping Conservative Members and that we are being asked to pretend, to delude ourselves and to dupe the public somehow into thinking that we support strong and controlled borders as a precondition for managed migration.
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Cocking criticises the Bill, stating it ignores the National Crime Agency's recommendation for a deterrent. He mentions a 30% rise in small boat crossings since the new Government took office and expresses disappointment with the removal of previous laws that toughened the system.
Minister reply
No direct ministerial response provided.
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Murray supports the Bill, emphasising its overdue nature in restoring confidence in the immigration system. He highlights three key components: counter-terror-style powers on immigration enforcement, a new offence of endangering a life at sea to change risk calculations for boat crossings, and working with other countries to tackle cross-border challenges.
Minister reply
No direct ministerial response provided.
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While appreciating the need for security at our borders and a sensible discourse around immigration, he emphasised the importance of compassion, legality, and an unwavering commitment to human rights. He raised concerns about the criminalisation of vulnerable people who are already caught in conflict, deprivation, and despair due to clause 18 of the Bill.
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The Government’s scrapping of the Rwanda plan is welcome, but many inhumane policies have been left to stand. She expressed concern about new elements of the Bill expanding offences and giving the state additional powers to investigate and prosecute people.
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The Government are seeking to set up a Border Security Commander who, in exercising their functions—which, I note, are undefined—must have regard to the objective of maximising the effectiveness of the activities of partner authorities relating to threats to border security. She expressed concerns about the lack of clarity around the roles and responsibilities of the Border Security Commander.
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I chair the Public and Commercial Services Union parliamentary group, which represents frontline Border Force staff who propose a safe-passage visa system to stop boats. Most asylum seekers arrive by boat because there are no other routes available. We need a comprehensive evidence-taking process for age assessments instead of inaccurate scientific measures.
Minister reply
The Government acknowledges the concerns raised about age assessment and will review the current methods. The aim is to ensure that vulnerable individuals, including children, are correctly identified and safeguarded.
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I welcome the Bill's focus on unaccompanied children entering by small boats and the repeal of the Safety of Rwanda Act 2024. Local authorities should be supported to make decisions about accommodation for these vulnerable children.
Minister reply
The Government agrees that local authorities must have autonomy in deciding appropriate placements for unaccompanied minors. The Bill aims to provide them with necessary support while ensuring their safety and well-being.
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The MP spoke about the historical context of immigration in Britain, acknowledging its benefits but also highlighting the previous Government's lack of control over borders. He cited an increase in returns under this government and criticised the Rwanda scheme for costing taxpayers £700 million.
Minister reply
We are taking action to fix a broken system with new measures that will prevent crime, protect vulnerable asylum seekers and crack down on people smuggling gangs. We have seen results already, including increased returns of individuals and removals of foreign criminals.
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The MP discussed her experience driving trucks across the channel and expressed concern about human trafficking and illegal migration. She praised the new Border Security Commander but criticised previous failures, including £700 million wasted on the Rwanda scheme.
Minister reply
We are getting results with returns of individuals, removals of foreign criminals, international deals to break up smuggling gangs, dialogue with G7 partners, arrests in Germany, and raids on businesses exploiting illegal migrants. The Bill will enshrine Border Security Command in law for more effective action.
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Alex Sobel
Labour/Co-op
Leeds Central and Headingley
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The MP welcomed measures to repeal harmful elements of the asylum system but expressed concern about criminalizing children’s wellbeing. She criticised past cruel treatment of child asylum seekers, such as painting over welcoming murals.
Minister reply
We must be diligent to ensure the Bill does not criminalize the wellbeing of children or lead to cruel measures against those fleeing persecution. We are mindful that it is the people smugglers who endanger lives.
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I thank the Minister for that reassurance. As the Bill progresses to Committee, it would be helpful if those items were listed among the relevant articles to give some solace to the NGOs... [Full question provided]
Minister reply
To reassure my hon. Friend, these items certainly will not include children’s toys, and nor will we be doing anything to introduce widespread powers that just apply to everybody. These are intelligence-led powers that will focus on those in the gangs doing the organising.
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The Conservative party has a record of failure, and now it is failing to back our measures to put things right... [Full question provided]
Minister reply
[No response from minister]
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Today’s remarks from Conservative Members have been clear—we understand the public’s frustration that more has not been done to reduce these numbers... [Full question provided]
Minister reply
[No response from minister]
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Can you refer to specific clauses in the Bill that give the Border Security Command the ability to dictate the activity of other Government agencies?
Minister reply
The minister responded that the Border Security Commander is already leading across government, and this bill will put his powers on a legal footing. She stated the first part of the bill deals entirely with putting these powers on the statute book.
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How will success based on the Bill be measured and by what metric?
Minister reply
The minister responded that more than four volunteers would be sent to Rwanda, but later clarified it was a mistake. She emphasised ongoing work in returns of illegal immigrants and enforcement of laws.