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House of Commons · General Debate

Employer National Insurance Contributions

04 December 2024 · 24 other contributors

Opened by Mel Stride Con Central Devon

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Mel Stride raised concerns about employer national insurance contributions in the House of Commons. Other MPs contributed to the debate.

Key points

  • Concerns raised about increasing employers' National Insurance contributions to 15% leading to higher business costs and potential job losses.
  • Criticism directed at Labour's manifesto for promising unrealistic and misleading economic growth.
  • No specific asks of the government or commitments made are recorded.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Mel Stride Con Central Devon

Moves that increasing the rate of employers’ National Insurance contributions to 15% will lead to increased costs for businesses and lower wages, resulting in job losses. Criticises Labour's manifesto promises on economic growth as unrealistic and misleading.

Other contributors (24)
  • Toby Perkins Lab Chesterfield

    Challenges Mel Stride's interpretation of OBR figures, suggesting the Conservatives misled the OBR.

  • Paul Waugh Lab Co-op Rochdale

    Questions how the Conservative Party can criticise broken manifesto pledges when they themselves broke their promise on National Insurance Contributions in 2019.

  • Jeevun Sandher Lab Loughborough

    Accuses Conservatives of leaving the UK with high energy prices and inflation, poor housing insulation and reliance on natural gas, while criticising Labour's economic record.

  • Torsten Bell Lab Swansea West

    Refers to ONS data showing productivity fell by 0.9% in the year leading up to the election, questioning the Conservatives' claim of a strong economic record.

  • Paul Holmes Con Hamble Valley

    Defends Conservative's promise on growth during the last general election against Labour’s lower projections under current Government.

  • Andrew Murrison Con South West Wiltshire

    Emphasises that more than 1 million jobs were created during their 14 years in government despite various crises, questioning the credibility of Labour's economic policies.

  • Dave Doogan SNP Angus and Perthshire Glens

    Questions whether increasing borrowing is an effective way to 'fix' the economy as seen during initial months of the current Government.

  • Kanishka Narayan Lab Vale of Glamorgan

    Asks if the shadow Chancellor agrees with his leader's stance on Truss's mini-Budget, questioning its effectiveness due to communication issues.

  • Caroline Nokes Con Romsey and Southampton North

    Asked the shadow Chancellor to clarify why the Office for Budget Responsibility made a correction to its figures concerning compensation for public sector employers and adult social care. She questioned the transparency of Labour's fiscal stance.

  • Luke Taylor Lib Dem Sutton and Cheam

    Recognised the impact of the national insurance hike on small businesses, which are vital to local economies. He suggested that Small Business Saturday could be an opportunity for the Government to reconsider its stance.

  • Toby Perkins Lab Chesterfield

    Asked whether opposition parties should provide alternatives when criticising government measures and questioned if Labour had viable policy proposals.

  • Wendy Morton Con Aldridge-Brownhills

    Discussed the impact of Government decisions on organisations such as air ambulances and hospices, suggesting exemptions might be necessary.

  • Daisy Cooper Lib Dem St Albans

    Warned against the negative consequences of increasing national insurance contributions for small businesses and social care providers. She outlined alternative methods to raise funds as proposed by her party, including reversing tax cuts given to big banks and reforming capital gains tax.

  • Paul Holmes Con Hamble Valley

    The national insurance rise is a vindictive proposal that undermines growth, taxes wealth creators and small businesses, borrows excessively, and makes the economic situation worse. The lack of growth under Labour means public services will suffer, fewer jobs will be created, and more businesses will close. I challenge the Government to outline what they would do instead of this measure to fund public services without borrowing £9 billion for public sector pay rises. The hospitality sector in my constituency faces significant challenges due to these measures, leading to potential staff reductions, venue closures, and stifled expansion.

  • Yuan Yang Lab Earley and Woodley

    N/A - No substantial contribution provided

  • Kevin Bonavia Lab Stevenage

    After inheriting the ruins of 14 years of Conservative failure, this Government has made tough decisions to balance the books. The national insurance rise is balanced with protections for small businesses, including an increased employment allowance and support for public sector employers. Unlike the previous government who imposed the highest tax burden since WWII, Labour does not ask for a penny more out of workers' pay packets. These decisions are necessary for fixing the foundations of our economy and unlocking funding to rebuild public services.

  • Lisa Smart Lib Dem Hazel Grove

    Small businesses are struggling due to rising prices, interest rates, and input costs. The Liberal Democrats are particularly worried about the impact on health and social care providers, including GP practices and community pharmacies. Raising the employment allowance will shield only the very smallest organisations, leaving many still negatively affected. She mentioned specific examples from her constituency: a childcare company that allocates 70% of its revenue to staff wages and a GP practice operating as a legal partnership which lacks flexibility to absorb increased costs. The rise in national insurance contributions will force reductions in clinical staffing, impacting patient care and increasing waiting times.

  • Louise Jones Lab North East Derbyshire

    The Labour Government refuses to balance the books on the backs of the poor, workers or people striving for a better life. Instead, they choose to invest in services, children and those who fight every day to keep us safe. These increases will strengthen public services, promote economic stability, and invest in workforce future prosperity. She acknowledged that national insurance contributions are essential for funding healthcare and pensions.

  • Alicia Kearns Con Rutland and Stamford

    The Budget forced businesses to compromise on growth. Local organisations such as St Barnabas Lincolnshire, the air ambulance service, GP practices, nurseries, advice services, care agencies, hospitality businesses, and independent shops have written to me expressing concerns over this stealth tax. The tax will affect rural communities most severely.

  • Danny Beales Lab Uxbridge and South Ruislip

    The issue is one of economic responsibility. We need to invest in rebuilding public services rather than cutting taxes at the same time. We understand that there are no magic money trees, unlike previous Tory Governments who crashed the economy and wasted taxpayers' hard-earned money. We have a plan to invest in public services like the NHS, schools, and armed forces.

  • Clive Jones Lib Dem Wokingham

    Paul and Melissa Johnson, directors of Home Instead, predict a national insurance increase costing £45,000 annually. Other costs such as the minimum wage rise will add another £55,000. This could result in business closures or scaled-back operations impacting elderly clients and local authorities. Jones suggests that tax increases on big banks, online gambling companies and social media giants would have been a fairer approach. He calls for an exemption of social care from national insurance contributions or protection from its effects.

  • Jake Richards Lab Rother Valley

    Richards reminds the House that Labour has previously raised national insurance to support NHS reforms and modernisation, delivering shortest waiting times and highest public satisfaction in history. He argues that Tory opposition then mirrors current opposition to difficult decisions on tax now. He challenges the Opposition's lack of alternatives for funding their commitments while criticising Conservative past failures regarding hospital construction and asylum system funding.

  • James Wild Con North West Norfolk

    The debate is about trust and promises broken by Labour. The IFS stated that increasing National Insurance was a breach of Labour’s manifesto promise not to raise taxes on working people. This £25 billion jobs tax impacts businesses, charities, and public services negatively, causing a loss of 940,000 business in net terms with an average annual tax increase of £800 per employee. Charities face higher bills by £1.4 billion, and adult social care providers will see a £2.8 billion hit. The lowest paid workers are particularly affected, with the OBR expecting this measure to raise £17.7 billion annually.

  • James Murray Lab Co-op Ealing North

    The Government has made tough choices, such as raising employer national insurance contributions, which will return national insurance revenues as a proportion of GDP to previous levels without increasing taxes for working people. This measure protects small businesses and charities by doubling the employment allowance to £10,500 and removing business size thresholds. While some employers will face challenges, the majority will see no change or less cost due to these adjustments.

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