Commons Sense

House of Commons · Ministerial Statement

Police Reform

20 November 2024 · 30 other contributors

Opened by Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Diana R. Johnson raised concerns about police reform in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Policing in England and Wales is world class but has faced challenges over the last decade.
  • Government aims to reduce serious violence and rebuild public trust through police reform.
  • Includes restoring patrols to town centres via a neighbourhood policing guarantee.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Government Statement

At its best, policing in England and Wales is world class but has faced significant challenges over the last decade including decimated neighbourhood policing, outdated technology, and declining confidence among communities and victims. The Government aims to reduce serious violence and rebuild public trust through a safer streets mission involving police reform. This includes restoring patrols to town centres via a neighbourhood policing guarantee, establishing a new performance unit in the Home Office for data-driven improvements, and creating a national centre of policing for support services like IT, aviation, and forensics. The 2025-26 funding settlement will see direct central Government funding increase by £0.5 billion next year. A White Paper on police reform is expected to be presented to Parliament in the spring.

Other contributors (30)
  • Lisa Smart Lib Dem Hazel Grove

    Question

    The Home Secretary’s announcement of significant reforms to policing merits parliamentary scrutiny. Questions about rural crime, antisocial behaviour, shoplifting in district centres and illegal off-road bikes causing havoc are raised along with the need for proper frontline policing.

    Minister reply

    The direction of travel is set out in the written ministerial statement laying foundations for next year's consultation process on police reform. The neighbourhood policing guarantee will deliver 13,000 additional officers and PCSOs to reinvigorate neighbourhood policing models. Legislation will tackle issues like shoplifting by introducing a stand-alone offence of assaulting a shopworker and removing the £200 threshold for prosecution.

  • Shaun Davies Lab Telford

    Question

    Sergeant Alex Webb from Telford police highlighted frustration in tackling repeat antisocial behaviour offenders. When will the Government provide tools to deal with such issues and maintain safety in town centres and high streets?

    Minister reply

    The neighbourhood policing guarantee aims to get officers back on the streets, addressing antisocial behaviour through measures including restoring patrols to town centres. Legislation to keep our town centres and high streets safe is planned for due course.

  • Chris Philp Con Croydon South

    Question

    Welcomed the Policing Minister, acknowledged her predecessor's record of increasing police numbers and overall crime reduction. Asked for assurances that funding would maintain or increase current levels and questioned whether £80 million for technology in the current year was secure and if there was commitment to a £230 million four-year investment. Also raised concerns about guidelines on non-crime hate incidents.

    Minister reply

    Acknowledged previous Conservative government's reduction of police numbers but emphasised Labour's manifesto commitment to add 13,000 officers, PCSoS and specials. Confirmed ongoing technological investments and stated that HMICFRS should guide training for neighbourhood policing.

  • Karl Turner Lab Kingston upon Hull East

    Question

    Asked if the Government's intentions include guaranteeing police patrols to address constituents' concerns about antisocial behaviour.

    Minister reply

    Confirmed plans for designated officers, PCSOs and specials patrolling neighbourhoods as part of the neighbourhood policing guarantee. Added that respect orders will be introduced to manage persistent offenders engaging in antisocial activities.

  • Karen Bradley Con Staffordshire Moorlands

    Question

    Welcomed the Government’s announcements on neighbourhood policing but asked about ensuring officers have appropriate experience.

    Minister reply

    Stated intention to equip neighbourhood police with best training, referencing College of Policing funding for problem-solving techniques.

  • Lewis Atkinson Lab Sunderland Central

    Question

    Asked if the Government would support recommendations from the pay review body and the impact on morale if they were not accepted.

    Minister reply

    Confirmed acceptance of this year's pay review recommendations with additional funding for salary increases, stressing importance of supporting police officers.

  • Anna Sabine Lib Dem Frome and East Somerset

    Question

    Inquired about resourcing rural crime teams to encourage reporting by farmers who fear under-resourced response.

    Minister reply

    Acknowledged importance of making sure crimes are reported, stating that the neighbourhood policing guarantee includes support for rural areas.

  • Luke Myer Lab Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland

    Question

    Asked for an assurance to prioritise frontline, visible community policing in response to a break-in at his constituency’s football club.

    Minister reply

    Confirmed commitment to prioritising neighbourhood policing once again.

  • Christopher Chope Con Christchurch

    Question

    Asked about including fraud in the White Paper and ensuring action against online retailers’ victims of fraud, describing Action Fraud as ineffective.

    Minister reply

    Reassured that Lord Hanson is looking at issues related to Action Fraud inherited from previous government.

  • Alison Hume Lab Scarborough and Whitby

    Question

    Cited recent crime figures showing increases in shoplifting, knife crime, and violence against women and girls, questioning the effectiveness of past Tory policies.

    Minister reply

    Emphasised her safer streets mission to halve violence against women and girls, knife crime over next decade, restore neighbourhood policing, and confidence in criminal justice system.

  • Caroline Voaden Lib Dem South Devon

    Question

    The Liberal Democrats welcome the announcement on proper neighbourhood policing. However, they are concerned about recent police decisions to redeploy local sergeants who have built positive relationships with communities. Can the Minister clarify how the neighbourhood policing guarantee will be implemented and ensure consistent long-term access to a known officer?

    Minister reply

    While acknowledging the previous coalition's challenges under austerity, Johnson highlights the 13,000 additional police officers, PCSOs, and specials to provide named officers for community problems. Training and prioritising neighbourhood policing are key parts of this reform.

  • Connor Naismith Lab Crewe and Nantwich

    Question

    Naismith's constituents face antisocial behaviour linked to the night-time economy, welcoming the Government’s plan for zero-tolerance zones and respect orders. Can the Minister provide more details on how these measures will help his constituents?

    Minister reply

    Johnson addresses the issue of antisocial behaviour as a major community problem impacting individuals and families, citing Resolve's statistic that one in seven householders considers moving due to such issues. The Government’s reforms aim to tackle this long-standing problem.

  • Sammy Wilson DUP East Antrim

    Question

    Wilson points out the lack of confidence in police services dealing with real crimes like burglary and antisocial behaviour, questioning the investigation time spent on non-crime incidents. He asks if laws introduced by the previous Government need changing to prevent such issues.

    Minister reply

    Johnson acknowledges the importance of addressing crime that affects communities directly but notes that the guidelines for non-crime hate incidents arose from the Macpherson inquiry following Stephen Lawrence's murder. The Government is committed to consistency and common sense in these investigations.

  • Jim Dickson Lab Dartford

    Question

    Dickson highlights ongoing antisocial behaviour around Wilmot Park, including vandalism and motorbike use, asking how the Government will prioritise such crimes under their safer streets mission.

    Minister reply

    Johnson emphasises additional officers through neighbourhood policing guarantee to deal with antisocial behaviour. The police are provided with powers to seize and destroy vehicles causing nuisance.

  • Julian Lewis Con New Forest East

    Question

    Lewis proposes that chief constables report back on how much time is spent investigating crime versus non-crime incidents, suggesting tens of thousands are investigated yearly.

    Minister reply

    Johnson thanks for the suggestion and notes this as an operational matter for chief constables but will check with HMIC regarding actual time spent.

  • Mike Tapp Lab Dover and Deal

    Question

    Tapp, from a policing background, expresses devastation at police decline under the Conservatives. He asks what is being done to rebuild British policing.

    Minister reply

    Johnson appreciates Tapp's service and commitment to rebuilding British policing as part of a collective effort focusing on modern priorities including violence reduction, public confidence restoration, and neighbourhood policing.

  • Richard Tice Reform Boston and Skegness

    Question

    Tice’s constituents want police on the streets for antisocial behaviour and crime prevention. He questions the value of investigating non-crime hate incidents.

    Minister reply

    Johnson prioritises safer streets mission focusing on violence reduction, public confidence in justice system, neighbourhood policing, and directing resources accordingly.

  • Alistair Strathern Lab Hitchin

    Question

    Strathern discusses rising antisocial behaviour like unsafe bike riding through village centres and shoplifting issues. He seeks reassurances on prioritising such crimes under the new strategy.

    Minister reply

    Johnson confirms commitment to tackling retail thefts and attacks, focusing on high streets, town centres, and communities for a safe environment with police presence.

  • Munira Wilson Lib Dem Twickenham

    Question

    Wilson raises concerns about the capital city grant cut since 2015 affecting local policing resources. She asks if the Minister will review this grant.

    Minister reply

    Johnson notes discussions underway regarding the points raised and commits to additional police officers, PCSOs, and specials across areas including London's Metropolitan Police area.

  • Christopher Vince Lab Co-op Harlow

    Question

    Residents in Harlow report a significant reduction in community police officers. With only four PCSOs now compared to over 30 in 2010, will the Minister explain how the safer streets mission will make residents feel more secure?

    Minister reply

    The number of PCSOs has halved and specials have decreased by two-thirds since 2010, which are shocking figures. The safer streets mission aims to ensure that PCSOs continue their valuable work in neighbourhoods and support for special constables will be increased.

  • Ben Obese-Jecty Con Huntingdon

    Question

    Cambridgeshire constabulary is underfunded due to the outdated police allocation formula. With projected growth, how can the Government ensure Cambridgeshire gets its fair share of funding from the £0.5 billion increase for 2025-26 and provide clarity on officer distribution?

    Minister reply

    The Home Secretary announced an additional £0.5 billion in policing funding for next year, including core grants and neighbourhood policing funds. The police funding settlement announcement will be made in December.

  • Amanda Martin Lab Portsmouth North

    Question

    Local communities face issues such as antisocial behaviour, fly-tipping, and shoplifting. How can the Minister support tougher measures to address these crimes and ensure police presence on high streets?

    Minister reply

    The safer streets mission will involve police officers, PCSOs, and special constables in communities to tackle antisocial behaviour, ensuring local communities are safer and businesses can thrive.

  • David Chadwick Lib Dem Brecon, Radnor and Cwm Tawe

    Question

    Police investigations for road traffic collisions are delayed due to resource constraints. What steps is the Department taking to address these challenges and expedite justice for affected families?

    Minister reply

    The Minister will investigate the specific issue of resourcing challenges for forensic collision units in addressing road traffic collisions and ensure swift conclusions for trials.

  • Mark Ferguson Lab Gateshead Central and Whickham

    Question

    High street crimes, including shop thefts up 40% in the past year, are impacting businesses. What measures will be implemented to reduce crime on high streets?

    Minister reply

    Measures include dealing with antisocial behaviour, a neighbourhood policing guarantee, new prosecutions for assaults on retail workers, and lowering thresholds for shop theft cases.

  • Nick Timothy Con West Suffolk

    Question

    The Metropolitan Police Commissioner highlighted non-deployable officers due to fitness or misconduct issues. Can the Minister provide the latest figures and clarify chief constables' request to ease firing underperforming officers?

    Minister reply

    Figures will be provided, but concerns have been raised about procedures for removing police officers within the Metropolitan force.

  • Mark Sewards Lab Leeds South West and Morley

    Question

    Residents and businesses report lack of police presence in their communities. Can the Minister confirm plans to return neighbourhood policing with visible patrols on streets and named officers for responses?

    Minister reply

    The neighbourhood policing guarantee will ensure police, PCSOs, and specials are back on the streets, providing a visible presence and addressing constituent concerns.

  • Tessa Munt Lib Dem Wells and Mendip Hills

    Question

    Residents feel frustrated with delays in response to crimes like rural crime, car racing, and shoplifting. Will the Minister review police commissioner offices to ensure resources are allocated appropriately?

    Minister reply

    The White Paper will address roles of Home Secretary, PCCs, and chief constables, providing an opportunity for constituents' views on resource allocation.

  • Luke Taylor Lib Dem Sutton and Cheam

    Question

    Stalking victims report lack of support from the Metropolitan police. What steps is the Department taking to train officers in identifying stalking, supporting victims, and taking robust action against perpetrators?

    Minister reply

    The Minister for safeguarding will address this issue, and she can raise hon. Gentleman's experiences with her.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Question

    What UK-wide strategies are being considered to tackle money lending and drug warfare involving criminal gangs and paramilitaries across the United Kingdom?

    Minister reply

    The Minister is open to discussing broader safer streets mission with hon. Member, including issues around drugs and paramilitary involvement in Northern Ireland.

Shadow Comment

Lisa Smart

The announcement of significant reforms to policing through a written statement merits parliamentary scrutiny and an opportunity for MPs to question their implications. The shadow criticises lack of mention towards rural crime, cuts to police community support officers since 2015, and ineffective resourcing under the previous government. Emphasis is placed on ensuring proper frontline policing with dedicated resources and more bobbies on the beat.

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