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House of Commons · Bill Debate

The Armed Forces Bill - Clause 1: Establishment of the Armed Forces Commissioner

18 November 2024 · 29 other contributors

Opened by John Healey Lab Rawmarsh and Conisbrough

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At a glance

John Healey raised concerns about the armed forces bill - clause 1: establishment of the armed forces commissioner in the House of Commons. Other MPs contributed to the debate.

Key points

  • The Armed Forces Bill aims to establish an independent Armed Forces Commissioner.
  • The Bill seeks to improve the service life of serving personnel and their families.
  • The commissioner will have the power to investigate and report directly to Parliament.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

John Healey Lab Rawmarsh and Conisbrough

Today, we take a significant step in strengthening support for our armed forces and their families by establishing an independent Armed Forces Commissioner. The Bill aims to improve service life for serving personnel and their families who make extraordinary sacrifices on behalf of the nation. It addresses recruitment, retention, morale issues, and sets out the commissioner's powers to investigate and report directly to Parliament.

Other contributors (29)
  • Tan Dhesi Lab Slough

    Welcomes the Bill but questions whether bereaved family members should have the right to make complaints to the commissioner.

  • Andrew Murrison Con South West Wiltshire

    Raises concern about excluding veterans from the commissioner's remit and suggests potential thematic investigations, such as those related to Camp Lejeune contaminants.

  • Gareth Snell Lab Co-op Stoke-on-Trent Central

    Asks about the role of existing military covenants in supporting service personnel and their families, and whether the commissioner will ensure commitments are delivered.

  • Harriet Cross Con Gordon and Buchan

    Inquires how the commissioner's role fits within the chain of command.

  • James Cartlidge Con South Suffolk

    The proposal aims to ensure extra accountability and transparency in welfare matters for armed forces personnel, but must not undermine operational effectiveness. The commissioner should expose cultural weaknesses without disrupting live operations, and there are concerns about the interaction between the commissioner and chain of command.

  • Andrew Murrison Con South West Wiltshire

    Agrees with Mr Cartlidge that uncertainty regarding school rolls impacts small independent schools such as Warminster School, which traditionally take a significant number of service pupils.

  • Tan Dhesi Lab Slough

    Supports the honourable intent of the Bill to improve service life. Questions the adequacy of the current system and calls for more investigative powers, as requested by Service Complaints Ombudsmen. Emphasises the need for independence of the commissioner from the Government, including funding and staffing autonomy. Seeks clarity on who can request investigations under clause 4. Highlights issues in recruitment, retention, and inappropriate behaviour within the armed forces.

  • Helen Maguire Lib Dem Epsom and Ewell

    Ms. Maguire supports the Bill, highlighting issues such as low satisfaction among armed forces personnel, high rates of sexual harassment, and inadequate family support. She emphasises the importance of defining 'family member' to include kinship carers and divorced partners. She also urges for a strengthened role in advocacy and accessibility, suggesting that the commissioner should prioritise reaching out to communities with digital access barriers. She calls for cultural change within the military to encourage personnel to seek help.

  • Fred Thomas Lab Plymouth Moor View

    Welcomed the Bill, emphasising its importance for veterans and serving personnel. Highlighted the positive steps in promoting welfare and public understanding of military issues. Emphasised the role of local government in supporting armed forces members and commended existing schemes like the Plymouth City Council's champion programme. Raised concerns about reservists' access to the commissioner, urging clarification on when they can seek support.

  • John Cooper Con Dumfries and Galloway

    Suggested that the commissioner should look into the difficulties faced by reservists in accessing support during deployment, as highlighted by his constituent Major Charles Milroy.

  • Luke Akehurst Lab North Durham

    Supports the establishment of an Armed Forces Commissioner to address declining morale among military personnel, improve welfare for service members and their families, enhance recruitment and retention rates. Calls for clarity on independence from the Secretary of State and staffing levels.

  • Dave Doogan SNP Angus and Perthshire Glens

    Welcomes the role of the Armed Forces Commissioner, especially their authority to investigate welfare complaints. Highlights the importance of unannounced visits to defence establishments and scrutiny by the Defence Committee. Critiques the misallocation of funding and lack of political will for adequate defence spending. Emphasises that the commissioner alone cannot fix all issues in military life.

  • Alison Hume Lab Scarborough and Whitby

    Ms. Alison Hume delivered her maiden speech, primarily focusing on paying tribute to armed forces personnel and veterans in her constituency. She highlighted the historical significance of her area, mentioning lifeboat stations, railway development, and cultural events such as Whitby Goth Weekend. Ms. Hume also honoured her predecessors for their contributions to improving local connectivity and infrastructure. Furthermore, she pledged to work towards bringing opportunities in creative industries, supporting sustainable fishing practices, and fostering growth in the green energy sector. She expressed gratitude towards organisations and charities dedicated to improving lives in her constituency and emphasised her commitment to addressing challenges faced by family farmers and ensuring better support for those with disabilities.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Welcomes the legislation as it will apply to Northern Ireland, ensuring respect and access for armed forces personnel. Highlights Northern Ireland's disproportionate contribution to reserve forces and seeks clarity on how the commissioner will interact with the existing Armed Forces Covenant. Supports the role of the Commissioner in providing an effective outlet for members of the armed forces and their families. Emphasises the importance of an accessible route to support, advocating for a joined-up approach especially when service members retire or leave active service. Acknowledges the work of Beyond the Battlefield veterans centre in his constituency, highlighting its significance for ex-service personnel who are homeless or suffer from PTSD.

  • Calvin Bailey Lab Leyton and Wanstead

    Emphasised the need for a robust complaints system that addresses systemic issues beyond individual cases, calling for an empowered commissioner to identify patterns of abuse and proactively address them. Raised concerns about low confidence in current systems and the impact on victims and wider communities. Advocated for protections against reprisals and inclusivity within all parts of the armed forces community.

  • Amanda Martin Lab Portsmouth North

    Supported the Bill, highlighting its importance in addressing attrition rates, low morale, and concerns over family support. Emphasised the need for an independent commissioner to improve welfare complaints processes and overall conditions of service personnel. Mentioned specific issues such as armed forces housing and childcare provision.

  • Pam Cox Lab Colchester

    Supports the introduction of an independent Armed Forces Commissioner to improve service life for armed forces personnel and their families. Emphasises the extra £2.9 billion investment announced in the Budget, which she believes will put us back on track regarding defence investments. She highlights the importance of addressing issues such as access to quality housing and childcare for service families. Acknowledges her constituency's significant military presence and expresses gratitude towards family members who have served or are currently serving.

  • Alex Ballinger Lab Halesowen

    Supports the Bill, recognising it as a necessity to improve service life and address the moral duty towards those who serve. Cites research indicating low morale among armed forces personnel due to underfunding and cuts over the past decade. He shares personal experiences of poor living conditions faced by his brother in the Royal Air Force, advocating for an independent Armed Forces Commissioner to ensure that issues are taken seriously and service personnel have a robust advocate.

  • Graeme Downie Lab Dunfermline and Dollar

    Welcomed the Bill for its impact on military families in Scotland. Highlighted the importance of addressing housing, education, and healthcare issues faced by service members and their families. Emphasised the need to tackle bullying, harassment, and discrimination within the armed forces to maintain morale and readiness.

  • Gregor Poynton Lab Livingston

    Supported the Bill as a commitment to strengthen support for our armed forces communities. Emphasised the importance of an independent commissioner who can address challenges such as mental health services and accommodation issues, holding governments accountable and providing meaningful recommendations.

  • Jonathan Brash Lab Hartlepool

    The Bill is critical for addressing the recruitment and retention crisis, aiming to make military life more attractive. It establishes an Armed Forces Commissioner who will drive improvements in service member's quality of life through proactive investigation. This role enhances trust and transparency by holding decision-makers accountable. The commissioner provides a direct point of contact for personnel and families, ensuring their voices shape future policies.

  • Peter Swallow Lab Bracknell

    Welcomes the establishment of an independent Armed Forces Commissioner as part of efforts to renew the nation’s contract with those who serve. The commissioner should be a powerful voice for service families and must have proactive investigatory powers. It highlights additional support measures such as pay rises, veterans' card digitisation, and childcare support for deployed personnel. Reflects on the 1,000 days since Putin's illegal invasion of Ukraine, reinforcing the need to renew our contract with armed forces.

  • Juliet Campbell Lab Broxtowe

    Welcomes the cross-party support for the Armed Forces Commissioner Bill at a time when service personnel have highlighted poor responses to concerns and low morale. The commissioner will transform how concerns are addressed, providing a dedicated spokesperson for military welfare in an ever-changing landscape. It aims to establish an infrastructure to secure support for service members and their families.

  • Terry Jermy Lab South West Norfolk

    Supporting the proposals, Jermy highlights his family's military background and the significant presence of RAF bases in his constituency. He notes the challenges faced by service personnel families, including financial struggles due to poor housing conditions. The commissioner would address these systemic issues and provide a direct point of contact for serving personnel and their families, highlighting the importance of independence and whistleblowing safeguards.

  • Alex Baker Lab Aldershot

    Welcoming the legislation, Baker emphasises the need to show respect to military families through actions. He cites specific issues such as children being allocated to different schools and inadequate housing conditions, which hinder service life quality. The commissioner would provide a trusted figure for investigations and accountability, essential for addressing unspoken and unresolved concerns within the armed forces community.

  • Mark Francois Con Rayleigh and Wickford

    Supports the vision of enhancing oversight but raises concerns about the transition, timeline, financial implications, commissioner's autonomy, and support for veterans. Requests further clarity on these issues.

  • Luke Pollard Lab Co-op Plymouth Sutton and Devonport

    Mr Pollard supported the establishment of an Armed Forces Commissioner, advocating for the commissioner's ability to investigate welfare matters affecting service personnel and their families. He cited concerns about morale decline and recruitment issues highlighted in continuous attitude surveys.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Mr Shannon intervened, highlighting the role of families in supporting service personnel suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder and emphasising that the Bill allows for family members to seek help on behalf of their loved ones.

  • Mark Francois Con Rayleigh and Wickford

    Mr Francois intervened, urging for further exploration of the national veterans commissioner during committee stage discussions. He acknowledged the importance of addressing issues related to veterans' support.

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