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The Government have announced a number of measures following the Angiolini report. How does the Minister respond to criticisms that these measures are too little, too late?
Minister reply
While we recognise the need for urgency in addressing issues raised by the Angiolini inquiry, it is important to approach this meticulously and ensure all recommendations receive thorough consideration before implementation. The Government has already taken steps to improve public confidence in policing and will continue to prioritise this issue.
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The report mentions the existence of a WhatsApp group where misogynistic views were shared. How does the Minister plan to address such issues within police forces?
Minister reply
Addressing toxic cultures and ensuring professional conduct is crucial. The Government will review the Angiolini inquiry's findings on this matter carefully, aiming to develop measures that uphold high standards of professionalism in policing.
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What specific actions is the Government taking to prevent another officer like Couzens from entering or remaining within police forces?
Minister reply
We are enhancing vetting practices, ensuring misconduct processes remove unfit officers more efficiently, and introducing automatic suspensions for certain criminal charges. These steps aim to safeguard against similar incidents in future.
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The report highlights failures in investigating indecent exposure allegations. What specific measures will be taken to improve this area?
Minister reply
We are considering the Angiolini inquiry's recommendations on training and guidance for investigating indecent exposure cases. Improving these processes is a priority to ensure thorough investigations.
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I thank the Home Secretary for advance sight of the statement. Three years ago this Sunday, a young woman walking home was abducted and brutally killed by a serving police officer who she should have been able to trust to keep her safe. Today we think of Sarah Everard and her parents, family and friends, who have to live with the shattering consequences of what happened.
Minister reply
The right hon. Lady makes a number of points about the findings in the report, and about the issues raised because of Sarah Everard’s brutal murder. I have continued the work of my predecessors, including that initiated by my right hon. Friend the Member for Witham (Priti Patel), to make sure that not just the Department, but police forces around the country and other organisations, statutory and non-statutory, that deal with the safety of women, are focused relentlessly on this issue. We have made it clear that there is still much work to be done, and, as I committed to do, we will respond promptly to the findings of this report.
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I join everybody in the House in paying tribute to Sarah Everard’s family. Having spent time with them, I hope the report will at least give them some sense of the facts and circumstances around what happened to their beautiful daughter, as they requested.
Minister reply
I thank my right hon. Friend for initiating the report and appointing Dame Elish. Details in the report were new to many people and were painful to read, but much of what is highlighted was already known. We have not waited for the report to start driving change. I have had conversations with police leadership about my expectations for their focus on the policing of the safety of women and girls and their attitude towards women and girls.
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I am grateful for advance sight of the statement, and to Dame Elish Angiolini for the careful and thorough way she has worked through this task. I would like to hear more about how those currently in the force who show tell-tale signs will be dealt with. What does the Home Secretary mean by “automated systems”, and how will they work? Will additional funding be made available to tackle institutional misogyny within the Met, and will Barnett consequentials be available so that the Scottish Government can similarly look at the threat of violence against women and girls?
Minister reply
The review initiated by my predecessor is important. The commissioner has demonstrated an admirable commitment to reform. I want to ensure that the Metropolitan police not only serve the capital and everybody in it, but are seen to serve them and that there is confidence in that. The professional standards team takes its work incredibly seriously.
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Can we also hear more about an issue that we have raised previously, which is where those reviews of standards are undertaken by other members of the police force. Surely there is a case for bringing in greater independence by using other agencies and institutions, such as the military, to help with these investigations.
Minister reply
I will consider my hon. Friend’s final point. The professional standards team takes its work incredibly seriously. Through the Criminal Justice Bill, we are giving chief constables more power to root out bad officers quickly.
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I wish to ask the Home Secretary again about this issue of indecent exposure, which is highlighted in the report and which he has talked about a little. In my constituency, we had the horrific case of Libby Squire, who was raped and murdered by a man who had been stalking women and roaming the streets of Hull for 18 months prior to murdering her. He had been exposing himself and committing acts of voyeurism.
Minister reply
I thank the Chair of the Select Committee for raising this point. There needs to be a cycle of increased confidence. Women who have been the victims of these kind of crimes need to feel confident about reporting them and they need to feel confident that their reports will be taken seriously.
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I would like to associate myself with the remarks of others—my thoughts are also with the Everard family. This report tells us that the environment did nothing—nothing—to discourage Couzens’ misogynistic view of women. We know that not every flasher becomes a rapist, but we also know that every rapist starts somewhere. I respectfully say to my right hon. Friend that, of course, there have been good changes with regard to criminal justice and longer sentences for the most violent and the most serious offences, but that is too late. We have to intervene in the offending journey. Last week, my Committee heard from Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stuart Cundy, a man who has taken on a really difficult job, overturning those stones in the Metropolitan police and turning up at 1,600 instances of officers with at least one allegation of a sexual offence or domestic violence—1. Can my right hon. Friend give us an assurance today that he will give more power to Stuart Cundy’s elbow, so that we get rid of these individuals from our police service?
Minister reply
My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. When I talk about that cycle of confidence, women need to see that when these crimes are reported, they are investigated and the perpetrators are brought to justice. Only then will they feel confident in coming forward. These are serious offences; they are not trivial. She is right to say that not everyone who is a flasher, not everyone who has made unwanted and inappropriate sexual advances to women, goes on to become a rapist or a murderer. None the less, the more people who are dissuaded from that behaviour because of swift and professional criminal justice, the more people we can prevent from getting to those later stages. That is why this is so important. That is why that cultural change needs to be driven through the whole system.
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I associate myself with the comments for the Everard family and with Lady Elish Angiolini. Her report today is a continuation of her reports that have highlighted failures in our criminal justice system. In the Home Secretary’s statement, I noticed mention of funding for the National Police Chiefs’ Council for the flagging of police officers in the vetting system. My own experience in the police service is that IT system improvements take a long time and are complex, so I suppose my first question for him is: what timescales do we have in mind for those improvements? Secondly, what engagement is happening with Police Scotland, because police officers transfer to forces in and outwith the UK? Finally, if today a serving police officer were found in a concerning situation that requires input into the intelligence system and they do not identify themselves as a police officer, are we confident that they would be dealt with accordingly?
Minister reply
The hon. Lady makes a number of points about the implementation of the changes that we are making. I cannot give precise timescales at the moment, because this piece of work is ongoing and recently initiated, but my desire is for these things to happen as quickly as possible. She is absolutely right that IT and systems changes are not instant, and I am impatient to get improvement, which is why I keep saying that we are not waiting for these things to go forward. They are amplifiers and accelerators of what should be a fundamental change that we are looking to drive through immediately.
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I thank my right hon. Friend for his statement. He will be clear that the overwhelming number of Metropolitan police officers are brave individuals who frequently put their life on the line to protect us all. That is key: such individuals want to see the bad apples rooted out and, indeed, never come into the police service in the first place. However, there are two aspects to the problems of the Metropolitan police: they are the one force in the country that failed to meet their recruitment targets in the past year; and the Mayor has yet to provide the funding from his budget to enable the cultural change that we need to see in the Metropolitan police. Does my right hon. Friend agree that we have to ensure that standards do not slip in recruitment—they should be enforced—and that the funding needs to be provided to change the culture of the Metropolitan police, as we would all like to see?
Minister reply
My hon. Friend rightly draws attention to the fact that London’s police and crime commissioner is the Mayor of London. He therefore has a duty to ensure that the police force over which he has political control changes, and changes in the way that has been highlighted through the inquiry and in the part 1 findings of the inquiry.
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I put it on the record that my constituency neighbour, my hon. Friend the Member for Streatham (Bell Ribeiro-Addy), in whose constituency Sarah Everard lived and from where she was abducted, then murdered, is on an overseas visit with the Joint Committee on Human Rights and is very sorry not to be in the Chamber for this important statement. Sarah Everard’s abduction and murder had a profound impact on women across south London. Like so many young people, she had moved to London for work and made her home in our diverse community in Lambeth. She was one of us. But both before this appalling murder and afterwards, residents in south London and further afield who expressed concerns about police behaviour that was misogynistic, racist or homophobic were told repeatedly that this was just “a few bad apples”, an offensive phrase that diminishes and denies people’s experience and belies what have been shown to be structural, cultural and widespread problems in policing. Will the Secretary of State, in the light of the report’s findings, apologise to everyone whose experiences of unacceptable behaviour by police officers has been diminished and denied in that way? Had they been listened to when they reported their experiences, action could have been taken that might have prevented Sarah’s appalling and tragic murder from taking place.
Minister reply
As I said, from my first day in elected office, I have tried to drive cultural change and an increase in professionalism, first in the Metropolitan police and, in this job, in policing more widely. I will continue to do that for all the time that I have the power and authority to do so. There needs to be—there must be—fundamental change. We must create an environment where women and girls feel confident in, not fearful of policing. That will remain my focus.
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I pay tribute to Lady Elish Angiolini for her thoughtful and considered report. The Home Affairs Committee took significant evidence on this issue, and her findings chime with what we heard about police standards and the culture within policing. It is worth saying that the vast majority of police officers join with good intentions, and they serve their communities well and with honour, and they serve the public well, but that core of rotten behaviour that she so well addresses in this report does exist. That is what we have to address, because at the heart of this issue is trust in policing. We need to get back to a place where women trust police officers and where they trust that when they report things, those reports will be listened to. Does my right hon. Friend have confidence not just in what the Metropolitan police are doing, but in what forces around the country are doing—I have Cumbrian women who are concerned about their walks home at night—to look at the people in their forces and ensure that they root out bad behaviour and get the culture right?
Minister reply
As I said in my response to the shadow Home Secretary, the simple truth is that there is no consistency across the country. Some forces deal with these issues better than others. We want to ensure that we increase the focus on such issues right across the country. The strategic policing requirement that I put forward is part of driving that attitudinal change right across the country.
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Asked the Home Secretary about discrepancies in funding between counter-terrorism units and units dealing with violence against women and girls, highlighting that £50 million was spent on Prevent referrals while only £18 million was allocated to domestic abuse reports. Also questioned why family court findings of rape are not accessible for police vetting when considering someone for a role as a police officer or social worker.
Minister reply
Stated that the strategic policing requirement is designed to make violence against women and girls equally important, and committed to reviewing reforms related to vetting. Emphasised the need for attitudinal change in addition to funding.
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Asked if police officers accused of domestic abuse or sexual assault should be suspended immediately.
Minister reply
Responded that while it seems obvious, such decisions must be based on individual circumstances to avoid wrongful suspensions. Highlighted changes in thresholds for suspensions and the need for swift disciplinary procedures.
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Highlighted the importance of police confidence for women to come forward, questioning if officers should be suspended immediately upon allegations.
Minister reply
Emphasised that suspensions must be based on individual circumstances. Stated changes have made it easier and quicker to suspend officers when necessary.
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Asked about recommendation 11 for information sharing between police forces, highlighting the need to address perpetrators moving from force to force.
Minister reply
Committed to driving change and prioritising violence against women and girls. Acknowledged that Couzens' vetting failure should have been flagged in other areas.
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Questioned the Government's approach to changing male attitudes towards women and girls.
Minister reply
Emphasised that the issue should not be considered a woman’s problem but rather a need for fundamental change in male behaviour. Highlighted the importance of information sharing between forces.
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My thoughts today are with Sarah Everard’s family. Lady Angiolini's report mentions serious issues such as reports not being taken seriously, officers not being properly trained, and failures of culture within police forces. I welcome the Secretary of State's comments on societal change and men's behaviour but ask if he agrees that recognising misogyny as a hate crime is vital for making women feel better protected by law.
Minister reply
Women need to see their issues taken seriously during investigations, with quicker police responses. While there have been calls for misogyny to be made a hate crime, I am yet to be convinced it would drive the necessary change. Instead, we are increasing penalties for sexually related criminality, ensuring that rapists serve longer sentences, and making clear through harsher penalties that these crimes are taken very seriously.
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Further to the Secretary of State's response, I suspect his words will come as news to the right hon. Member for Tunbridge Wells. The Protection from Sex-based Harassment in Public Act 2023 was designed to recognise where women are targeted on our streets and give them additional protections but has not been mentioned by the Home Secretary. Will he ask the Met to abide by this law, sign the statutory instrument, and implement that piece of legislation?
Minister reply
I understand her frustration and am committed to tackling these issues. She should recognise that implementation of decisions made by this House is a decision for the political head of policing in London, the Labour Mayor of London. I am willing to take up this matter with him.
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Dame Angiolini’s finding that there is nothing to stop another Wayne Couzens operating in plain sight worries me because he had been operating since 2002. The Home Secretary has used many words today: “systemic issues in policing”, “trust in policing”, “attitudinal change is needed”. Actions speak louder than words, so will he meet me to discuss the Police (Declaration) Bill and how a register of memberships of secret societies should be publicly available?
Minister reply
I am more than happy to be held accountable for my words on this issue. I can assure her that for as long as I have authority over these areas, I will maintain it as a priority and demand serious attention from operational police officers and political leadership of police forces.