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House of Commons · General Debate

Prisons

24 October 2023 · 11 other contributors

Opened by Damian Hinds Con East Hampshire

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Damian Hinds raised concerns about prisons in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • The Minister proposes to extend the removal window for foreign national offenders from 12 to 18 months.
  • The measure aims to save taxpayer money by reducing prison costs and ensuring public safety.
  • The Minister highlights the high cost of housing foreign national offenders at 47,000 per year.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Damian Hinds Con East Hampshire

The Minister proposes amendments to the Criminal Justice Act 2003 to increase the removal window of foreign national offenders from 12 months to 18 months, enabling deportation six months earlier. He argues that this measure will save taxpayer money by reducing prison costs and ensure public safety by removing dangerous individuals early in their sentences. The Minister also highlights the significant expense associated with housing FNOs (£47,000 per year) and emphasises the government's commitment to deporting more foreign national offenders through various schemes and agreements.

Other contributors (11)
  • Bob Stewart Con unknown constituency

    Questions whether individuals removed at the end of their sentence are prohibited from returning to the UK, seeking clarification on whether such individuals have paid their debt to society.

  • Paul Holmes Con Hamble Valley

    Acknowledges that foreign national offenders cost the taxpayer £500 million a year and questions if the proposed measures will ensure financial savings within the prison system, leading to more efficient operations.

  • Louie French Con Old Bexley and Sidcup

    Expresses concern over previous attempts by Opposition Members to obstruct deportation of dangerous criminals and asks what actions the Home Office can take to prevent such occurrences in the future.

  • James Wild Con North West Norfolk

    Inquires about the specific criteria for duty to remove offenders with EU settled status who have been sentenced over a year, seeking clarity on whether these individuals would also be subject to deportation and barred from re-entry.

  • Ruth Cadbury Lab Brentford and Isleworth

    The Opposition will support the order because of the Government's failure in prison management, but criticises it as a half-baked measure. She highlights the lack of planning around prison population growth, pointing out that warnings about overcrowding were ignored. She also mentions past failures by Conservative Governments to deliver on promises regarding foreign national offenders and suggests Labour's plan for a returns unit and additional caseworkers. Concerned about victim protection, she asks if violent or sexual offenders will be released early due to the change.

  • Paul Holmes Con Hamble Valley

    Asked Ruth Cadbury why Labour had voted against measures to remove foreign national offenders at every stage when now they are supporting it. Implied that Labour's votes were responsible for the current problem of overcrowding.

  • Priti Patel Con Witham

    The Government should remove foreign national offenders (FNOs) to ensure public safety and protect victims. The current measures will enable FNOs to be deported directly from prisons sooner, reducing the time before release point from 12 months to 18 months. This is important as those who remain in the UK pose a risk to safety.

  • The statutory instrument is sensible and logical given the high cost of housing foreign nationals in prisons. It helps manage the prison population efficiently while acknowledging the need for more prison space. This measure will allow for better use of existing facilities, which many constituents would support.

  • The statutory instrument is a modest but sensible approach to managing the prison population and ensuring public safety. It does not alter the requirement that prisoners should have served at least half their custodial sentence prior to release, maintaining the punitive aspect of sentencing while allowing for earlier deportation.

  • Edward Timpson Con Worcester

    Reminds hon. Members of his interest in prison reform and supports the statutory instrument for alleviating pressure on prisons, particularly regarding foreign nationals. He asks the Minister to review agreements for prisoner transfer and seeks clarification on statistics related to women and youth custody.

  • Damian Hinds Con East Hampshire

    Gratefully acknowledges contributions from various MPs and emphasises the importance of combining punishment with rehabilitation. He confirms that this measure does not alter minimum time in custody, addresses questions about Albania's partnership for prisoner transfer agreements, and stresses the need to keep victims at the heart of policy decisions. The Minister also highlights reductions in prison overcrowding since 2010 compared to Labour’s tenure and points out achievements such as tougher sentences and improved rehabilitation measures leading to a reduced reoffending rate.

Government Response

The Minister provides detailed responses addressing concerns raised by MPs, confirming that this measure does not alter the minimum time in custody and that victim contact schemes apply in these cases. He also discusses the positive impact of new prisoner transfer agreements with Albania and the overall effectiveness of measures to reduce reoffending rates.

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