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The Communications Act - Clause 82 and various amendments

12 September 2023 · 39 other contributors

Opened by Paul Scully Con Dorset South

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At a glance

Paul Scully raised concerns about the communications act - clause 82 and various amendments in the House of Commons. Other MPs contributed to the debate.

Key points

  • Moves amendment (a) to Lords amendment 182, introducing a series of consequential amendments aimed at improving the regulation of internet companies and social media platforms
  • Highlights collaborative work done with Backbenchers in both Houses to address issues such as child safety online
  • Discusses the need for data access for coroners in the context of amendments

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Paul Scully Con Dorset South

Moves amendment (a) to Lords amendment 182, introducing a series of consequential amendments aimed at improving the regulation of internet companies and social media platforms. The speaker highlights the collaborative work done with Backbenchers in both Houses to address issues such as child safety online and data access for coroners.

Other contributors (39)
  • Roger Gale Con Herne Bay and Sandwich

    Supports the amendment and expresses appreciation for the constructive discussions with the Government that led to the withdrawal of an earlier amendment. He emphasises the importance of saving children's lives through improved regulation.

  • Bill Cash Con Penistone and Stocksbridge

    Intervenes to express gratitude towards the Government for their work on child safety online, highlighting the positive outcome of discussions that have contributed significantly to preventing child deaths.

  • Sajid Javid Con Bromsgrove

    Invites Roger Gale to elaborate on the Government's plans for closing legislative gaps, particularly in relation to data access for coroners and future measures under the Data Protection and Digital Information Bill.

  • John Hayes Con South Holland and The Deepings

    Agrees with Roger Gale's point that there is a risk of under-regulation rather than over-regulation, emphasising the need for stringent measures against dastardly practices by internet companies.

  • Debbie Abrahams Lab Oldham East and Saddleworth

    Highlights gaps in the Bill's regulatory requirements for online social media companies, questioning how effectiveness will be monitored over time to adapt to evolving social media trends.

  • John Penrose Constitutional Brighton Kemptown

    Supports the Government amendment 241 on provenance, expressing hope for future legislation addressing areas currently considered weak, such as disinformation and misinformation.

  • Margaret Hodge Lab Barking

    Asks about mechanisms for parliamentary monitoring of implementation and suggests that the principle of director liability should be applied in other Bills like the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill.

  • Kirsty Blackman SNP Aberdeen North

    Expresses concern over the lack of a dedicated review mechanism, questioning whether future legislation will be timely and effective.

  • Damian Collins Con Tower Hamlets

    Supports the amendment, stating that it ensures Ofcom has the authority to enforce companies' terms of service and monitor illegal use effectively.

  • Alex Davies-Jones Lab Pontypridd

    She is pleased with concessions made by the Government but calls for a review within five years. She supports amendments addressing children’s risk assessments and proactively removing animal torture content online, noting the RSPCA's research on increased reports of animal abuse. Davies-Jones highlights the need for transparency in researcher access to data and emphasises Labour's ongoing commitment to stronger protections for people online.

  • Richard Burgon Lab Leeds East

    [INTERVENTION] He agrees that the Bill does not go far enough in tackling harmful suicide and self-harm content, suggesting engagement with people with lived experience of these issues to improve legislation.

  • Caroline Dinenage Con Gosport

    Welcomes the return of the Online Safety Bill, highlighting its ambitious aim to make the UK the safest place in the world to go online. Acknowledges the vital work done by child protection campaigners and expresses gratitude towards noble colleagues for shaping the legislation. Emphasises the importance of protecting children, vulnerable adults, women, girls, animals, and addressing issues like end-to-end encryption and user empowerment tools. Supports measures such as new Ofcom powers and changes brought forward to address online violence against women.

  • Bill Cash Con

    [INTERVENTION] Commends Caroline Dinenage for her remarks, pointing out that European legislation has nothing comparable to what is in the Online Safety Bill. Highlights the effectiveness of self-legislation.

  • Kirsty Blackman SNP Aberdeen North

    Supports the amendments for their improvements in keeping people safe online. Highlights the importance of considering both user numbers and risk levels for high-risk platforms, criticises the lack of oversight on app stores, and emphasises the need for robust review mechanisms to adapt to rapidly changing technology.

  • Damian Collins Con Folkestone and Hythe

    The Bill has undergone thorough scrutiny over a long period, resulting in comprehensive legislation with a robust regulator. He emphasises the importance of ongoing post-legislative scrutiny to adapt to new technologies like the metaverse and large language models. Collins stresses the need for accountability through regulatory oversight and transparency from technology companies regarding data use and harm mitigation. He also suggests forming a special joint committee for continuous review.

  • John Hayes Con South Holland and The Deepings

    Intervenes to support the need for thorough scrutiny while acknowledging the challenge of aligning technological pace with legislative process. He echoes concerns about balancing detailed examination with the rapid evolution of technology.

  • Bill Cash Con Stone

    Suggests setting up a Sub-Committee under the Standing Orders of the Select Committee on Culture, Media and Sport to annually monitor developments and keep pace with technological change.

  • Jamie Stone Lib Dem Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross

    Welcomes the addition of new offences for encouraging self-harm and intimate image abuse but expresses concerns about the Secretary of State's powers. Wishes to see more movement on risk assessment and terms of service subject to a mandatory risk assessment. Emphasises the importance of education and rapid intervention by parents or guardians when necessary. Raises concern over encryption, expressing opposition to any attempts to undermine or weaken it.

  • Kirsty Blackman SNP Aberdeen North

    Intervenes to emphasise the importance of preventing online dangers before they affect children, highlighting the need for companies and Ofcom to do risk assessments to make platforms safer by design.

  • Maria Miller Con Horsham

    Welcomes the amendments focusing on intimate image abuse, including deepfakes, and acknowledges the commitment shown by the Government. Supports the creation of four new offences relating to sharing intimate images without consent and their potential impact in protecting victims from blackmail and distress.

  • Richard Burgon Lab Leeds East

    While not directly addressing the amendment, Richard Burgon highlights the importance of tackling harmful online content related to suicide and self-harm. He supports the need for ongoing engagement with constituents and stakeholders like the Samaritans to ensure that legislation effectively protects vulnerable individuals from dangerous online material.

  • Siobhan Baillie Con Stroud

    Baillie argues for visible identity verification as a necessary tool to combat abuse, fraud, and harmful content. She believes that making verified users visible helps protect people from anonymous abusers and provides confidence in online interactions.

  • Bill Cash Con Stone

    Intervenes to support Baillie's argument, noting the Government's recent strategy announcements on suicide prevention that align with Baillie’s concerns about harmful content.

  • John Hayes Con South Holland and The Deepings

    Agrees with Baillie, suggesting a re-evaluation of internet companies' legal responsibilities to combat harmful material published on their platforms.

  • Pays tribute to Siobhan Baillie's work and suggests that a committee or scrutiny group could monitor the effectiveness of guidelines related to visible identity verification.

  • Jeremy Wright Con Kenilworth and Southam

    Welcomes the amendments that aim to include harmful features, functionalities or behaviours in children's risk assessments. Acknowledges the importance of clarity and proportionality in these changes. Supports Lords amendment 391 to allow Ofcom to designate smaller platforms as category 1 services if they have certain functionalities.

  • Bill Cash Con Stone

    Suggests that there should be a special provision for an annual report by Ofcom on its involvement in these processes, to ensure accountability and transparency of Ofcom's activities.

  • Marcus Fysh Con Mid Devon

    Mr. Fysh raised concerns about the potential chilling effect on innovation and introduced amendments aimed at addressing systemic weaknesses that could undermine secure operations of critical systems. He emphasised the need for clarity in provisions related to remote viewing of information to prevent unintended access vulnerabilities.

  • Vicky Ford Con Chelmsford

    Ms. Ford emphasised the need for age assurance measures to prevent young people from accessing online pornography and called for better regulation of dangerous suicide and eating disorder forums. She also highlighted that small platforms can be as harmful as major ones, citing a tiny forum that was setting death dates for its users. Furthermore, she sought confirmation from the Minister regarding the new criminal offence of intentionally encouraging serious self-harm, including activities related to eating disorders.

  • Bill Cash Con Stone

    The speaker argues for the amendment, highlighting its importance in protecting children online. He references historical efforts to protect children and mentions recent work by Baroness Kidron and others. The speaker cites statistics from the NSPCC indicating that 86% of UK adults want companies to understand how groomers use their sites and take action to prevent it by law.

  • Miriam Cates Con Penistone and Stocksbridge

    Supports Lords amendments to criminalise directors and managers for non-compliance with Ofcom’s enforcement notices regarding child safety duties. Highlights that 1.4 million British children visit pornographic sites each month, citing potential long-term negative impacts on children's perceptions of sex and relationships. Emphasises the importance of enforcing age verification tools across all platforms to protect children from harmful online content.

  • Bill Cash Con Stone

    [INTERVENTION] Agrees with Miriam Cates that criminalising non-compliance will be a deterrent for tech companies, highlighting the need for action at board level.

  • Ian Paisley Jnr DUP North Antrim

    [INTERVENTION] Congratulates Miriam Cates on her efforts to highlight online safety issues, emphasising that this is a beginning and not an end to ensuring proper digital access protection for children and adults.

  • Anna Firth Con Great Yarmouth

    Supports Lords amendments 195 and 153, which allow Ofcom, coroners, and bereaved parents to acquire information about a child’s use of social media after their death. Cites the tragic case of Archie Battersbee to illustrate the need for these amendments, noting that bereaved families often struggle to access crucial online data in such cases.

  • Ian Paisley Jnr DUP North Antrim

    Expressed gratitude towards the Minister for engaging on access to private property and setting up a consultation on the right to access a person’s phone after they are deceased or incapacitated. He hopes this is the start of something that ensures big digital companies will no longer be able to bully people.

  • Damian Collins Con Folkestone and Hythe

    Asked the Minister if companies should use proactive technology, as they already do for content recommendation purposes. Also mentioned that a child born on the day of the original internet safety strategy's publication is now in their second year of primary school.

  • Jeremy Wright Con Kenilworth and Southam

    Asked for clarity on whether the Minister agreed with everything he said, specifically regarding proportionality and balancing duties in design harms, and also sought confirmation about the Government’s position on encryption.

  • Vicky Ford Con Chelmsford

    Asked for confirmation about the accuracy of a letter she received from the Minister of State, Ministry of Justice.

  • Alex Davies-Jones Lab Pontypridd

    Thanked the Minister along with Hope Not Hate, Antisemitism Policy Trust and CST for their campaign efforts on small high-harm platforms now in scope of the Bill. She also sought confirmation that the regulator would be able to take action against such proceedings.

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