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House of Commons · General Debate

Local Radio: BBC Proposals

22 June 2023 · 31 other contributors

Opened by Mike Penning Con Hemel Hempstead

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Mike Penning raised concerns about local radio: bbc proposals in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Concerns raised about BBC local radio cuts impacting communities and access to local information
  • Speaker criticises BBC management for handling of staff redundancies
  • Minister acknowledges strength of feeling against BBC cuts and highlights government engagement with the BBC

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Mike Penning Con Hemel Hempstead

The motion calls on the BBC to reconsider its decision to cut local news output from local radio, which will negatively impact communities across the UK and reduce access to local information. The speaker emphasises that BBC local radio is trusted and irreplaceable, and criticises the handling of staff redundancies by BBC management. He argues for accountability in local journalism and highlights the importance of local radio during significant events such as the fire at his constituency.

Other contributors (31)
  • Mike Penning Con Hemel Hempstead

    Penning states that the reduction will affect those who rely on BBC local radio for news and entertainment, especially older generations. He criticises the lack of representation in Ofcom's review and points out that local journalists provide important information to constituents.

  • Bob Seely Con Isle of Wight

    Seely interjects to note the low starting salaries for BBC radio reporters, highlighting the disparity between these wages and those of high-profile presenters.

  • Jamie Stone Lib Dem Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross

    Stone supports Penning's argument, noting that cuts to local radio will undermine proper reporting in remote areas like the far north of Scotland.

  • Greg Clark Con Tunbridge Wells

    Clark agrees with Stone and underscores the importance of local media for informed decision-making in local democracy.

  • Carter emphasises the need to hold Ofcom accountable for robustly regulating BBC management on delivering local services, as per their own rules which are deemed insufficient by Ofcom.

  • Helen Morgan Lib Dem North Shropshire

    Morgan agrees that local radio is crucial for informing people about events in their specific areas, especially in rural regions where commercial stations may not be accessible.

  • Emma Lewell-Buck Lab South Shields

    I thank the right hon. Member for Hemel Hempstead (Sir Mike Penning) for doing a great job in setting out the details of all of our concerns here today. I have never made any secret of my love for BBC Radio Newcastle. My love of local radio is shared by many, not just in the north-east but right across our country, because local radio matters. Many of us struggled through covid and missed loved ones. Local radio provided comfort, reassurance, and connected people during the pandemic. Under the BBC’s proposals, I cannot imagine how regional coverage from 2 pm onwards could accurately convey local information for different areas.

  • Tan Dhesi Lab Slough

    Local BBC stations such as our much-valued BBC Radio Berkshire are invaluable because they hold local politicians to account and give voice to local people who would not otherwise be covered by the national media. I appreciate that the Government have cut funds to the BBC, but does my hon. Friend agree that the Government must give reassurances to the good people of Slough and others in Berkshire that they will not lose out on that BBC Radio Berkshire output?

  • Catherine West Lab Hornsey and Friern Barnet

    As somebody who understands the ins and outs of local government, does my hon. Friend agree that BBC local radio, which often takes a much more detailed approach to a problem than other media, is very important to those who want to follow local government decisions? It often provides really good scrutiny—much better, in fact, than that provided nationally.

  • Robert Buckland Con South Swindon

    It is 100 years since the BBC was founded. Without the local radio network developed over the last 50 years or so, the first of Lord Reith’s three maxims will not be fulfilled. BBC Radio Wiltshire is the only glue within the broadcasting network that links Swindon with its historical country. The loss and denigration of this service will harm the way local people can access information. Digital coverage alone cannot replace live content generated by local journalists, who are integral to public service radio.

  • Peter Dowd Lab Bootle

    Under the banner of “digital first”, 39 local radio stations will have their content dramatically reduced. Local radio has 5.7 million listeners every week, yet no meaningful consultation has taken place. We are concerned that those plans are being pursued without appropriate consultation and that local radio programmes provide a valuable service of information and companionship in communities, mitigating rural isolation and supporting mental health.

  • Lia Nici Lab Great Grimsby

    Local radio is unique in the media landscape, offering long-form conversations and impartial local broadcasting. Concerned about the demographic of listeners being older and from lower socioeconomic groups. Criticises BBC's commitment to local radio and its shift towards digital. Worried that loss of local radio will impact democratic reporting and those who rely on it for information.

  • Nigel Evans Con Mid Bedfordshire

    Proposes a time limit of five minutes per speech to keep the debate flowing efficiently.

  • Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

    Supports local BBC radio stations, especially Radio Humberside, for their community involvement and indispensability in emergencies. Criticises proposed cuts to end local radio services at 2 pm and highlights the impact on digitally excluded groups. Urges independent scrutiny of finances and proper public consultation before any further action.

  • Robin Walker Con Worcester

    This debate is significant as it brings together Members of all parties to address issues affecting constituents. The speaker congratulates Sir Mike Penning for bringing forward the debate and highlights that even if they do not vote on the motion, it needs to be taken seriously by BBC management. Walker expresses concerns over proposals silencing local voices and being detrimental to equality grounds. He questions whether proper equality tests have been conducted and supports blind campaigners' efforts. The speaker also raises issues related to timing changes in programming which may affect local news coverage outside peak hours. Additionally, he criticises the lack of consultation with staff, expressing sympathy for those striking, and highlights concerns over regional proposals that could combine Hereford and Worcester with Shropshire, Staffordshire and Stoke, which would not be as locally relevant.

  • Ian Lavery Lab Blyth and Ashington

    Lavery gently reminds the House that not everyone listens to Radio 4 or World Service; many rely on local radio. He discusses the importance of local news, traditions, weather forecasts, and sports coverage specific to their regions. Emphasises the necessity for journalists with local accents and understanding, mentioning non-league football as an example. Criticises digitalization efforts in areas where it is less prevalent, highlighting that people still refer to radios as 'the wireless'. Shares a personal anecdote about Radio Newcastle's impact on his family during his childhood. Concludes by expressing dissatisfaction with how journalists are being treated and invites Robin Walker to join the picket line.

  • Evans briefly comments in support of Ian Lavery’s statement, welcoming Robin Walker to the picket line if he chooses to support the striking journalists.

  • Peter Aldous Con Waveney

    Aldous congratulates Sir Mike Penning for securing the debate and expresses worries that BBC's proposals have not been thoroughly researched, consulted upon or scrutinised. He highlights concerns over sharing content with multiple radio stations in various counties without proper rurality tests. Discusses the importance of local radio for older people living alone and emphasises its role during emergencies like the storm surge on 5 December 2013 when Radio Suffolk played a crucial part in keeping communities informed. Acknowledges that local newspapers are also moving to digital platforms but notes the limitations faced by emerging commercial stations due to regulatory burdens. Urges the BBC to review their plans and requests the Government's update on reducing regulatory costs for commercial radio stations as outlined in the draft Media Bill.

  • Matt Rodda Lab Reading Central

    I pay tribute to the right hon. Member for Hemel Hempstead and thank Members from across the House, declaring an interest as a former local newspaper journalist. I support better online coverage but not at the expense of local radio which is crucial and loved by residents in Reading. Local radio needs to maintain its essence and remain local, especially in areas poorly served by other BBC media like television. The proposed cuts would severely affect my constituents who rely on local radio for information and comfort. We need the BBC to rethink their approach and listen to local communities.

  • I thank my right hon. Friend for securing this debate, stressing that the proposed cuts are outrageous. Paying tribute to radio presenters in Devon like John Acres and Gordon Sparks, I emphasise the importance of local radio for community engagement and information sharing. The BBC's decision without proper consultation is unacceptable; we need them to do a full consultation so constituents can understand the impact on their service. Localism is vital, and merging services between regions will exacerbate rivalries and diminish quality. Concerns about gagging orders affecting employees highlight the need for transparency and respect for public opinion.

  • Rachael Maskell Lab Co-op York Central

    The BBC's decision to cut local radio services in North Yorkshire is a failure of consultation and sensitivity. It will impact over-65s the most, despite being a minor cost (£200k). The BBC must apologise and engage with communities affected by these changes. Ofcom should regulate effectively. Local connections matter for community well-being and belonging, especially after learning from the isolation caused by COVID. The process of cutting jobs is humiliating and damaging to dedicated journalists who care about their communities.

  • Bob Seely Con Isle of Wight

    Supports reconsideration of BBC's decision to cut local radio news output, highlighting the significant reach and value for money of local radio. Local stations like BBC Radio Solent cover large areas despite relatively low costs. Further regionalisation is problematic due to geographic differences. Cuts are not justified given bloated management structures and high salaries compared to local reporters' modest earnings. Emphasises importance of local reporters who care about their communities, reporting on local issues with integrity.

  • John Martin McDonnell Lab Hayes and Harlington

    Calls for a reconsideration of cuts in light of their impact on employment stability and community support. Argues that local radio services are not just about news but companionship, highlighting issues like the digital divide and staff wellbeing.

  • Highlights BBC Radio Essex's role as a trusted source for news, comfort, charity work, and community building. Emphasises the importance of local radio in supporting football teams and elderly audiences who rely on it for information. Urges reconsideration to ensure continued service relevance.

  • Liz Twist Lab Blaydon and Consett

    I congratulate the right hon. Member for Hemel Hempstead on securing this popular debate. Local radio matters. It matters for community, for inclusion and for democracy. Local radio is a vital way for many people to get involved and be informed about many aspects of public life. For many, local radio is also a source of connection, crucial to combating loneliness and instilling a sense of local community. The BBC’s intention to cut up to 50% of its local radio output across 39 stations in England will have a dire effect for all those listeners. Local radio is important in the north-east due to digital exclusion and strong sense of local identity. Local radio plays a significant role in combating loneliness, especially among over-55s who listen to some form of radio every week. People with disabilities may find it very difficult to use new digital services, which has not been adequately considered. The changes bring about casualties among our fantastic local presenters, who are being pitted against each other and treated badly by their employer as they look for alternative jobs.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    I find fault with the handling of this situation by the BBC. The decision to remove local services in a cost-cutting exercise, while continuing to pay BBC stars exorbitant amounts of money, is not something that I can agree with. 36 staff at the local Foyle Radio will lose their jobs as a result of these cuts, which will save £2.3 million, with further redundancies expected next year. The combined audience for BBC Radio Foyle and BBC Radio Ulster is almost 470,000 people a week—equivalent to 30% of Northern Ireland’s population. Clearly the likes of “The Nolan Show” will draw bigger audiences than Radio Foyle, but I believe there is a duty of care to the smaller programmes, to ensure that local people have a local voice and not simply a Belfast voice. The first response to diminishing fees should be to make cuts in the pay brackets of senior management—those stars that are being referred to.

  • Stephanie Peacock Lab Barnsley South

    Local radio plays a crucial role in local democracy and community engagement, as evidenced by Radio Sheffield's coverage of issues such as the tree-felling inquiry and representation of young councillors. The BBC's proposed changes, which include regionalising content after 2 pm and on weekends, threaten the future of local radio services that provide granular information valuable to communities. There is widespread concern about the lack of consultation with affected communities and a failure to assess the impact on marginalised groups such as visually impaired people and those who are digitally excluded. The BBC's independence should not prevent it from making informed decisions transparently, particularly when they disproportionately affect vulnerable populations.

  • Nigel Evans Con Leyland and South Ribble

    Commends the excellent debate on the importance of local radio stations like Radio Lancashire. Emphasises the value that local radio provides to communities, without directly addressing the specific concerns raised about proposed changes by the BBC.

  • Stuart Andrew Con Daventry

    Acknowledged nationwide concern about the planned changes to BBC local radio services. Emphasised the importance of local radio in reflecting communities' experiences, providing reliable news and companionship, especially for older people in rural areas. Noted that despite some reassurances from the BBC, concerns remain regarding the impact on local journalism and community engagement.

  • Emphasised the importance of audience engagement with presenters and staff at BBC Radio Lancashire, questioning whether the BBC is adequately consulting its audiences about proposed changes.

  • Asked to give way but did not contribute a full speech within the provided transcript.

Government Response

Acknowledged the strength of feeling against the BBC's proposed cuts and expressed disappointment with these changes. Highlighted government efforts to engage with the BBC regarding its decisions, including meetings with the BBC board and director general. Emphasised the importance of local radio in providing distinctive services that commercial stations cannot match.

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