Commons Sense

House of Commons · Ministerial Statement

Ukraine

27 April 2023 · 26 other contributors

Opened by Andrew Murrison Con South West Wiltshire

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Andrew Murrison raised concerns about ukraine in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • The Defence Secretary met counterparts at Ramstein air base for the 11th meeting of the Ukraine defence contact group
  • The focus was on accelerating the delivery of military aid packages to assist Ukraine
  • The UK donated modern main battle tanks, including Challenger 2 tanks and AS-90 self-propelled guns, with training packages

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Government Statement

On Friday, the Defence Secretary met his counterparts at Ramstein air base for the 11th meeting of the Ukraine defence contact group. The focus was on accelerating the delivery of military aid packages to assist Ukraine in expelling Russian forces from occupied territory. The UK is a leading provider of military support and donated modern main battle tanks as the first country to do so, completing delivery with training packages including Challenger 2 tanks, AS-90 self-propelled guns, armoured vehicles, and missiles. A total of £520 million was raised in the first bidding round for donations through the UK-led international fund, receiving over 1,500 expressions of interest from suppliers across 40 countries. Over 14,000 Ukrainian recruits have returned to defend their homeland after training by the UK and other nations, expected to reach 20,000 this year.

Other contributors (26)
  • John Healey Lab Rawmarsh and Conisbrough

    Question

    Concerned about the flagging momentum in military aid to Ukraine, questions include lack of new weapons pledges since February, no 2023 action plan as promised last August, only one contract from international fund launched last year. Also mentioned war crime tribunals and Ukrainian refugees' issues.

    Minister reply

    The UK is leading Europe in supporting Ukraine with £5 billion allocated for replenishing stocks and a total of £520 million raised through the international fund. The government will continue to support Ukraine's efforts, but no apologies are made for using munitions to defend democratic integrity against aggression.

  • Desmond Swayne Con New Forest West

    Question

    What estimate has the Minister made of the continuing ability of Ukraine to deny air superiority to Russia?

    Minister reply

    Ukraine continues to prevail in all dimensions, and the international fund is active in providing air defence which is crucial for winning this conflict.

  • Question

    What are the UK Government doing to get defensive weapons, including ammunition, to Bakhmut as soon as possible? Are they coordinating with producers and European allies regarding iodine tablets and radiation treatment?

    Minister reply

    The UK stands ready to assist in any way it can be of help, particularly given the concerns raised about nuclear blackmail at Zaporizhzhia.

  • Question

    What efforts are being made to replenish stocks of weapons? Our generosity has come at a cost and Britain must keep its arms ready.

    Minister reply

    Some £5 billion from the integrated review refresh and spring Budget will be used for replenishing stocks. The munitions expended in Ukraine defend democracy against territorial aggression.

  • Derek Twigg Lab Widnes and Halewood

    Question

    Questions the frequency of ministerial statements on Ukraine, inquires about the current state of munitions stockpiles for both domestic use and support to Ukraine.

    Minister reply

    Concentrates on supporting Ukraine through munitions supply and training efforts. Acknowledges the spring Budget provided substantial funding for replenishment.

  • Bob Blackman Con Harrow East

    Question

    Inquires about the role of UK armed forces in delivering weapons to Ukraine and potential escalation with Russia.

    Minister reply

    Emphasises the need for diplomatic settlement, acknowledges ongoing training efforts, aiming to train 20,000 Ukrainians by year-end.

  • Emma Lewell-Bentley Lab South Shields

    Question

    Asks about concrete actions following the Prime Minister's stockpile review and plans for growing defence industrial capacity.

    Minister reply

    Highlights ongoing negotiations with defence partners, acknowledges rapidity of industry responses in providing armaments.

  • Question

    Asks for assurance on UK military presence inside Ukraine to protect diplomatic missions.

    Minister reply

    Provides assurance, emphasising the importance of protecting those engaged in diplomacy.

  • Jamie Stone Lib Dem Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross

    Question

    Inquires about protection measures for North Sea assets and UK critical national infrastructure from potential threats.

    Minister reply

    Acknowledges ongoing investigations regarding Nord Stream gas pipeline interdiction; assures subsea surveillance is prioritised.

  • Question

    Asks about humanitarian support, particularly in providing ambulances and 4x4s.

    Minister reply

    Acknowledges the need for armoured ambulances; mentions provision of CVR(T)-Saracen ambulances to Ukraine.

  • Chi Onwurah Lab Newcastle upon Tyne Central

    Question

    Questions about plans for replenishing military stockpiles and adapting defence procurement.

    Minister reply

    Acknowledges the need for agile provision of munitions, highlighting the Budget's £5 billion uplift for nuclear endeavours.

  • Question

    Inquires about measures to enhance Ukrainian interoperability with NATO forces.

    Minister reply

    Confirms ongoing work to ensure interoperability and anticipation of enhancements at the upcoming NATO summit.

  • Nick Smith Lab Blaenau Gwent

    Question

    Asks about longer-range weapons provided to Ukraine and their supply timeline.

    Minister reply

    Confirms provision of AS-90 artillery pieces; emphasises defensive nature of support.

  • Louie French Con Old Bexley and Sidcup

    Question

    Inquires about delivery status of kit and equipment announced in January, including Challenger 2 tanks and AS-90s.

    Minister reply

    Confirms the delivery has been made.

  • Valerie Vaz Lab Walsall and Bloxwich

    Question

    Asks when the Defence Secretary last spoke to NATO Secretary-General regarding today’s announcement and Chinese negotiations.

    Minister reply

    Offers to write a response with the required information.

  • Question

    Requests assurance that aid funding for Ukraine will not come from the core Defence budget.

    Minister reply

    Provides assurance that aid funding will be separate from the core Defence budget.

  • Question

    Questions why the UK Government has delayed in declaring the Wagner Group a trans-national terror organisation.

    Minister reply

    Confirms sanctions on over 1,500 individuals and entities connected to this conflict, including the Wagner Group.

  • Kevin Brennan Lab Cardiff West

    Question

    The Minister was slightly unfair to the shadow Secretary of State in saying that he welcomed and understood his attacking: my hon. Friend was not attacking but doing his proper and constitutional job, as a spokesperson for His Majesty’s loyal Opposition, of holding the Government to account.

    Minister reply

    I can assure the hon. Gentleman that it is not lost. I probably would not trust a member of the Government to make that assertion, but President Zelensky himself has made it plain in his remarks that the UK has played a formidable leadership role in ensuring that Ukraine can repel Putin’s barbarism and the atrocity committed upon the state of Ukraine by Putin’s Russia.

  • Andrew Gwynne Ind Gorton and Denton

    Question

    I am proud that the UK has taken a lead on Ukraine and has brought together allies from across the world to play their part. One of the ways that we have done that is through the British armed forces training programme, bringing those Ukrainian armed forces personnel up to speed with the latest fighting techniques.

    Minister reply

    I visited the Ukrainians training in the UK and spoke with them and their trainers. They are an extraordinary bunch of people. By the end of the year we will have trained 20,000 of them. The quality of our training is peerless, right across the domains that one would expect.

  • Stephanie Peacock Lab Barnsley South

    Question

    Given the seriousness of the situation, why are Ministers pressing ahead with further cuts to the British Army, with troop numbers estimated to fall by a further 10,000?

    Minister reply

    The hon. Lady should be careful about what she reads in the press. We have been consistent in our support for the armed forces. I am grateful for the shadow Secretary of State’s support for what the Government are trying to achieve in Ukraine.

  • Carol Monaghan SNP Glasgow North West

    Question

    What estimate has the Minister made of the number of Ukrainian children who have been kidnapped by Russian forces? What support has been offered to Ukrainian forces to return those children to their parents?

    Minister reply

    The removal of children from Ukraine to Russia is truly shocking and heartrending. The best we can hope for is that Putin sees the reputational damage that it delivers to him and his country and reverses his policy.

  • Gareth Thomas Lab Co-op Harrow West

    Question

    We all want the Ukrainian counter-offensive to be successful. My right hon. Friend the Member for Wentworth and Dearne (John Healey) was right to challenge the Government on whether they are adhering to their commitments. On the point about long-range missiles, which my right hon. Friend and others have pressed the Minister on

    Minister reply

    Our provision of munitions, in concert with others, is driven by the Ukrainian ask and our ability to deliver them. That was discussed at Ramstein and will be discussed further at Vilnius, subject to the second round of the international fund call that opened on 11 April.

  • Tan Dhesi Lab Slough

    Question

    In the face of a Russian invasion, we must continue to support and stand in solidarity with the Ukrainian people. But this war has exposed how the Conservative Government have underfunded and hollowed out our armed forces over the last 13 years.

    Minister reply

    As the hon. Gentleman should know, we committed to 148 Challenger 3 upgrades in the integrated review refresh. That remains our position.

  • Matt Western Lab Warwick and Leamington

    Question

    A few moments ago, the Minister said that we must give to Ukraine what Ukraine tells us it needs. All of us here will have been in Westminster Hall to hear President Zelensky’s impassioned speech.

    Minister reply

    Ukraine has had munitions from the international community, and in particular from the United Kingdom. We plan to train pilots to operate jets.

  • Margaret Ferrier Ind Rutherglen and Hamilton West

    Question

    The demand for prosthetic limbs in Ukraine continues to climb owing to the conflict.

    Minister reply

    Recently, I was pleased to visit the Defence Medical Rehabilitation Centre at Stanford Hall, which is recognised internationally as a centre of excellence. Its expertise will undoubtedly influence how Ukraine develops its capacity in prosthetics.

Shadow Comment

John Healey

Concerns were raised about the faltering momentum of military aid to Ukraine since January. No new weapons have been pledged since February, no action plan for 2023 has been made public despite promises last August, and only one contract has been signed from the international fund launched last year. Criticisms also included lack of support for war crime tribunals and addressing Ukrainian refugees' issues such as homelessness.

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