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House of Commons · Bill Debate

Immigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill - Lords amendments 4G, 5B, 6B, 7B, 7C, 8B, 8C, 10B, 11B, 13B, 20B, 24B, 25B, 26B, and 53B-D

20 April 2022 · 23 other contributors

Opened by Tom Pursglove Con Corby

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At a glance

Tom Pursglove raised concerns about immigration and social security co-ordination (eu withdrawal) bill - lords amendments 4g, 5b, 6b, 7b, 7c, 8b, 8c, 10b, 11b, 13b, 20b, 24b, 25b, 26b, and 53b-d in the House of Commons. Other MPs contributed to the debate.

Key points

  • Moves to disagree with Lords amendment 4G due to concerns raised
  • Proposes disagreement with multiple Lords amendments over financial privilege issues
  • Concerns about the need for brief interventions during debate expressed

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Tom Pursglove Con Corby

Moves to disagree with Lords amendment 4G. Proposes disagreement with multiple Lords amendments due to concerns about financial privilege and the need for brief interventions during debate.

Other contributors (23)
  • Nadia Whittome Lab Nottingham East

    Questions the legality of the Government's actions under international law, specifically regarding asylum seekers arriving in irregular ways.

  • Clive Lewis Lab Norwich South

    Presses the Minister for clarity on how UK legislation complies with the 1951 UN refugee convention and whether there is a risk of breaking international law.

  • Andrew Mitchell Con Sutton Coldfield

    Asks for details on safe and legal routes to asylum, including from Syria, Afghanistan, and Ukraine.

  • Simon Hoare Con North Dorset

    Questions the effectiveness of moving people to Rwanda in disrupting human trafficking networks and seeks clarity on safe routes for Kurdish asylum seekers.

  • Lloyd Russell-Moyle Lab Brighton Kemptown

    Raises concerns about the treatment of Kurds in Turkey and highlights the dangers faced by Kurdish asylum seekers attempting to reach the UK through irregular routes.

  • Stuart McDonald SNP Banff and Buchan

    Questions why proposals like Lords amendment 10B pose a danger, suggesting that proper safeguards are necessary but should not be overly restrictive.

  • Tim Loughton Con East Worthing and Shoreham

    Proposes support for tough measures against people trafficking while advocating for greater availability of safe and legal routes, particularly through family reunion schemes.

  • David Simmonds Con Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner

    Supports the Government's position on Lords amendments 7B and 7C, emphasising that they avoid preferential treatment for asylum seekers.

  • Iain Duncan Smith Con Chingford and Woodford Green

    Questions the impact of constant reviews on asylum seekers' stability, suggesting that a minimum period should be established to provide some certainty.

  • Margaret Ferrier Ind Rutherglen and Hamilton West

    Raises concerns about arbitrary deadlines for victims of trafficking to declare themselves as such, suggesting that this further victimizes them.

  • Paul Blomfield Lab Sheffield Central

    Questions the evidence supporting the effectiveness of the proposed policy and highlights concerns about its potential counterproductivity.

  • Steve Brine Con Winchester

    Inquires about the Rwanda partnership scheme, its funding, and how it interacts with LGBTQ individuals seeking asylum.

  • Bob Neill Con Hornchurch and Upminster

    Suggests investing in the current system as a more effective alternative to the Rwanda scheme, highlighting the cost implications of the latter.

  • Jacob Young Lab Richmond Park

    Asks about evidence supporting the policy from countries like Australia that have implemented similar offshoring measures.

  • David Davis Con Goole and Pocklington

    Raises concerns about incentivizing groups to cross the channel if they are identified as protected under any new policy, using the example of families.

  • Stephen Kinnock Lab Aberafan Maesteg

    The bill fails to address challenges and instead exacerbates them. The Rwanda plan is costly, unworkable, and undermines Britain's values. Amendments seek to ensure fair treatment of asylum seekers, maintain family unity, provide value for money, and adhere to the 1951 UN refugee convention.

  • Jacob Young Con Nuneaton

    Asked a brief interjection questioning Labour's stance on supporting the Rwanda plan, seeking clarity on their position.

  • David Simmonds Con Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner

    Cited experience of local authorities indicating that many refugee children are immediately placed in care systems due to the inability of UK families to support them, suggesting the Government's approach may be justified.

  • Iain Duncan Smith Con Chingford and Woodford Green

    Argued that confirmed victims of modern-day slavery need more stable support post-referral mechanism, citing Justice and Care's victim navigator study showing 89% engagement in police investigations with minimum period support. He highlighted mental health issues caused by unstable support periods.

  • Stuart McDonald SNP Glasgow North West

    Supported Lords amendments 5B, 13B and 15 on the grounds that they align with international obligations and protect asylum seekers from criminalisation. He criticised the Bill for failing to meet refugee convention standards.

  • Andrew Mitchell Con Sutton Coldfield

    Emphasised need for staff augmentation, improved relationship with France, safe and legal routes for asylum seekers, and a new international convention to update the 1951 refugee convention. He questioned practicality of Rwanda scheme.

  • Sally-Ann Hart questioned the necessity of Lords amendment 7, which concerns asylum seekers' ability to work after six months. She asked whether measures in the Bill and partnerships like UK-Rwanda would mean no asylum seekers remain in limbo after six months.

  • Tom Pursglove Con Corby

    Tom Pursglove argued that the Government’s approach, as detailed in the Bill, is based on a moral imperative to address challenges. He stated that this was the only credible plan and urged Members to support it.

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