Commons Sense

House of Commons · Ministerial Statement

Terrorist Incident at Liverpool Women’s Hospital

16 November 2021 · 25 other contributors

Opened by Kit Malthouse Con North West Hampshire

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Kit Malthouse raised concerns about terrorist incident at liverpool women’s hospital in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • The explosion outside Liverpool Women's Hospital was a shocking incident
  • The minister expressed condolences and gratitude to emergency services
  • The Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre raised the UK national threat level from substantial to severe due to ongoing intelligence assessments

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Government Statement

The explosion outside Liverpool Women's Hospital was a shocking incident, and the minister expressed condolences and gratitude to emergency services. He mentioned that the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre raised the UK national threat level from substantial to severe independently of Ministers due to ongoing intelligence assessments. The public is advised to remain alert but not alarmed. Emphasis was placed on working closely with security agencies and the police to combat terrorism threats.

Other contributors (25)
  • Kim Johnson Lab Liverpool Riverside

    Question

    The MP expressed gratitude towards emergency services and hospital staff, highlighting the need for unity against hate crimes following such incidents. She specifically mentioned concerns regarding Muslim communities receiving inadequate funding relative to their risk exposure from hate crimes.

    Minister reply

    The minister praised the hon. Lady's sentiment of unity and acknowledged that senior Home Office officials were present in Liverpool to assess the situation personally. He emphasised the importance of community support during such incidents.

  • Julian Lewis Con New Forest East

    Question

    The MP suggested that urgent questions should be unnecessary for providing information, and he recommended informing the House promptly to avoid media speculation.

    Minister reply

    The minister acknowledged the need to balance between providing timely information and avoiding further speculation, which can complicate ongoing investigations. He stated a willingness to consider more careful timing of statements in future.

  • Conor McGinn Lab St Helens North

    Question

    One always feels a sense of responsibility and sadness on occasions such as this, but I feel it particularly today as a Merseyside MP. Will the Minister ensure that agencies have the resources to reinforce that message? Why have none of those recommendations been implemented after four years regarding home-made explosive devices? Why is funding being taken away from key counter-extremism projects? Will the Minister look at information sharing between intelligence agencies, our police and public bodies again?

    Minister reply

    Significant resources are available to our counter-terrorism policing colleagues. Investigations into the materials used in the incident are ongoing. The Government constantly learn lessons from incidents around the world and refine their preventive efforts.

  • John Redwood Con Wokingham

    Question

    What action is the Home Office taking to review all policies that could have a bearing on similar attacks?

    Minister reply

    Constant attention is paid to our ability to prevent these kinds of attacks, and since 2017, counter-terrorism policing has prevented 31 attacks. We constantly learn lessons from incidents around the world.

  • Brendan O'Hara SNP Argyll, Bute and South Lochaber

    Question

    Could the Minister say something about what is being done to address the radicalisation of such lone attackers? How confident is the Minister that current controls on access to chemicals are robust?

    Minister reply

    Investigations into the materials used in the incident are ongoing. It is hard to draw conclusions until we know exactly what the circumstances are.

  • Robert Jenrick Reform Newark

    Question

    When will my right hon. Friend respond to reports and set out the Government’s strategy?

    Minister reply

    My right hon. Friends the Home Secretary and the Minister for Security and Borders are applying themselves with enthusiasm to combatting radicalism, particularly in an internet age.

  • Yvette Cooper Lab Pontefract, Castleford and Knottingley

    Question

    Why was there not a statement after this increase in the terror threat level?

    Minister reply

    The decision to raise the threat level was made considering recent incidents, including the death of Sir David Amess, combined with other information gathered by JTAC.

  • Desmond Swayne Con New Forest West

    Question

    Is he in a position to share with us some of the rationale for raising the threat level nationally?

    Minister reply

    It might not be helpful to our general security for me to discuss these matters in public, but I understand my right hon. Friend’s desire for more information.

  • Paula Barker Lab Liverpool Wavertree

    Question

    Pays tribute to emergency responders and staff at Liverpool Women’s Hospital, inquires about additional resources for Merseyside Police and Counter Terrorism Policing North West.

    Minister reply

    States that current resources are adequate but will consider further requests if made.

  • Question

    Asks about the importance of effective border controls in maintaining public confidence regarding security.

    Minister reply

    Agrees on the necessity of fair and swift border controls to ensure orderly entry into the country while delivering duties towards refugees.

  • Angela Eagle Lab Wallasey

    Question

    Expresses solidarity with Liverpool communities, inquires about countering self-radicalisation during lockdowns.

    Minister reply

    Acknowledges that current portfolio does not cover this area but mentions ongoing work to address radicalisation online and the impact of confinement.

  • Nusrat Ghani Con Sussex Weald

    Question

    References a report on 'tipping point' into extremism, asks about actions against social media platforms.

    Minister reply

    Acknowledges the work done by Nusrat Ghani and emphasises the role of social media companies in shaping young minds.

  • Question

    Commends emergency services, discusses the challenges of addressing radicalisation over the past 20 years.

    Minister reply

    Apologises for not being able to comment more but reiterates that lessons will be drawn after investigation completion.

  • Question

    Inquires about a potential pivot towards focusing on lone actors among security services and police.

    Minister reply

    Acknowledges the difficulty of identifying lone actors but assures ongoing work to address this threat.

  • Dan Carden Lab Liverpool Walton

    Question

    Expresses gratitude for emergency service response, asks for reassurance regarding security and safety for minority communities.

    Minister reply

    Reassures that measures are being taken to ensure community safety and bind the community together.

  • Question

    Inquires about the Government’s response to recommendations on chemical regulation made by Intelligence and Security Committee in 2018.

    Minister reply

    States that forensic examination is ongoing and lessons will be drawn accordingly.

  • Maria Eagle Lab Liverpool Garston

    Question

    Compliments Merseyside police and fire services for their swift response to the explosion during Remembrance Day, and asks what more can be done to ensure threats to community cohesion are minimised.

    Minister reply

    Praises Merseyside Police's performance, stating that the Department of Levelling Up, Housing and Communities is engaging with Liverpool local authorities to reassure and maintain unity within the community.

  • Peter Dowd Lab Bootle

    Question

    Expresses concern for hospital staff after the incident and requests a full review of security at hospitals to ensure patient, staff, and visitor safety.

    Minister reply

    Acknowledges the need for reviews of security arrangements and confirms that there will be an increased police presence in public areas.

  • Diana R. Johnson Lab Kingston upon Hull North and Cottingham

    Question

    Asks for a review of recent recommendations from the Intelligence and Security Committee to ensure security measures are up-to-date.

    Minister reply

    Agrees to discuss with colleagues about the status of the committee's recommendations and boost their implementation if necessary.

  • Alison McGovern Lab Birkenhead

    Question

    Asks for research on misogyny ideology as a potential driver behind incidents like Sunday’s attack, specifically at the Women’s Hospital.

    Minister reply

    Confirms that there is an ongoing examination of this phenomenon within the Home Office.

  • Question

    Asks for assurance that health service trusts will not have to pay out-of-pocket for security upgrades, instead receiving additional funding from central government.

    Minister reply

    Ensures that necessary resources will be available either within their budgets or via additional funding.

  • Debbie Abrahams Lab Oldham East and Saddleworth

    Question

    Asks about the number of asylum seekers waiting more than two years for decisions on applications, and those receiving mental health support.

    Minister reply

    Refuses to speculate on the motivations behind the incident but offers to provide figures in writing. Highlights Liverpool's solidarity and resilience.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Question

    Enquires about support for taxi driver David Perry who acted bravely during the incident.

    Minister reply

    Pledges to personally ensure that Mr Perry receives all necessary support for his recovery.

  • Question

    Asks about support offered by the Government to veterans with PTSD or other mental health conditions triggered by Sunday’s incident.

    Minister reply

    States that the military covenant work on welfare and wellbeing may be employed to help veterans affected.

Shadow Comment

Kim Johnson

The shadow minister expressed gratitude towards emergency services, hospital staff, and city council for their swift response. She highlighted the need for unity against hate crimes following such incidents, particularly against the Muslim community, which faces the highest percentage of religious hate crimes. She called on the Minister to review funding allocation to ensure adequate protection for all faith communities during heightened risk periods. Additionally, she urged reconsideration of an inhumane approach to immigration policies.

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