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House of Commons · Bill Debate

The Taxi and Private Hire Vehicle (Driver Conduct) Bill - Clause 1(g)

10 September 2021 · 38 other contributors

Opened by Peter Gibson Con Bolton West

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Peter Gibson raised concerns about the taxi and private hire vehicle (driver conduct) bill - clause 1(g) in the House of Commons. Other MPs contributed to the debate.

Key points

  • The Bill aims to ensure that only fit individuals hold taxi and private hire vehicle licences to enhance public safety.
  • It mandates licensing authorities to record and search a database for licence refusal, suspension, or revocation due to safeguarding concerns.
  • Currently, about 343,000 such licences are issued in England by 276 licensing authorities.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Peter Gibson Con Bolton West

Moves the Bill to ensure that only those fit to hold a licence are entrusted to carry the public. It aims to enhance public safety by mandating the sharing of relevant and necessary information. The Bill mandates licensing authorities to record instances where they have refused, suspended or revoked licences due to safeguarding concerns and requires them to search a database for such incidents when processing new applications. Currently, about 343,000 taxi and private hire vehicle driver licences are issued in England by 276 licensing authorities.

Other contributors (38)
  • Anthony Mangnall Con Bury North

    Concerned that clause 1(g) is broad and could be misinterpreted, inquiring about an appeals process if someone is removed from driving due to licensing authority interpretation.

  • Sally-Ann Hart SNP Hamilton East

    Clarifies that local licensing authorities have panels that hear evidence and allow taxi drivers opportunities to present their case, ensuring existing protections are in place.

  • Emphasises the importance of timely information sharing and urges for immediate availability on databases when a licence is revoked or suspended.

  • Mike Wood Con Kingswinford and South Staffordshire

    Questions whether Scottish Government and other devolved national Governments will reciprocate data sharing to ensure information flow throughout the UK.

  • Clarifies that licensing authorities in England would input information, but authorities in Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland could also access it for reference.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Inquires about safeguarding accessibility and equality for disabled people using taxis under this Bill.

  • Shaun Bailey Lab West Bromwich West

    References a scandal involving special educational needs travel contracts in Sandwell, asking if the Bill would prevent such issues to ensure children's safety.

  • Richard Holden Con Basildon and Billericay

    Welcomes the step towards addressing cross-border travel standards in County Durham, questioning how the Bill will tackle such issues.

  • Daniel Zeichner Lab Cambridge

    He supports the Bill as it aims to address issues faced by taxi drivers, particularly financial hardship and vehicle insurance problems. He highlighted a 29% fall in black cab numbers in London due to these challenges. Zeichner emphasised that the Bill tackles safety concerns and aligns with recommendations from previous task forces and debates. He noted varying licensing rules across regions and called for an overhaul of outdated legislation.

  • Matt Rodda Lab Reading Central

    Rodda intervened to support the Bill, highlighting its importance for key workers in the taxi industry who have faced significant pressure. He urged consideration of disabled people's needs and called for a level playing field across different regions.

  • Clarkson agreed with Zeichner, noting that the Bill is crucial for establishing uniform standards in taxi driver licensing across different authorities. He used Rossendale Borough Council as an example of inconsistent licensing practices.

  • Williams agreed with Zeichner's concern about gaming the system due to non-universal coverage and stressed the importance of cross-border considerations in Wales and England for taxi driver licensing rules.

  • Mark Jenkinson Lab Workington

    Supports the Bill's aim to improve accountability and safety standards in the taxi and private hire vehicle industry. Emphasises that licensing authorities should have access to a comprehensive pool of data, which is currently lacking. Argues that this will help prevent unsuitable individuals from continuing their trade after having licences revoked or refused elsewhere.

  • Sam Tarry Lab Ilford South

    Welcomes the Bill and highlights its importance in addressing safety concerns and enhancing licensing regulations. Criticises the current lack of action by the Government to implement recommendations from a 2018 task and finish group report. Stresses that cross-border hiring undermines licensing efficacy across England, necessitating robust national standards.

  • Shaun Bailey Lab West Bromwich West

    Supports the Bill, citing local examples from Sandwell where a transport contract scandal occurred due to lack of oversight. Highlights the need for robust and fair procurement processes in larger transport contracts involving vulnerable individuals. Emphasises the importance of a level playing field for firms that comply with rules.

  • Robbie Moore Con Keighley and Ilkley

    Congratulates Peter Gibson on introducing the Bill. Supports it as an important first step in updating outdated legislation, focusing on safety concerns highlighted by technological advancements and changes in the taxi market. Cites a worrying case of drug distribution through taxis which the Bill aims to address.

  • Angela Richardson Con Guildford

    Supports the Bill, highlighting local efforts by Guildford Borough Council in enhancing taxi and private hire safety. Expresses concern over a patchwork system that allows unscrupulous operators to exploit loopholes. Advocates for uniform fitness checks across England.

  • James Davies Con Montgomeryshire

    Supports the Bill for ensuring passenger safety and addressing discrimination. Mentions the significant increase in taxi numbers since 1972 and highlights the importance of data sharing between local authorities to maintain public trust in taxis. Discusses instances of wheelchair users and those with assistance dogs being refused access or charged additional fees, advocating for measures that prevent such discriminatory practices.

  • Simon Baynes Con Vale of Clwyd

    Compliments Peter Gibson's proposal and underscores the importance of aligning with Welsh authorities for a Union-wide approach. Emphasises safeguarding children, especially those with special educational needs, who rely on taxi services to attend schools. Highlights that taxis provide essential public service during difficult times like the pandemic.

  • Lia Nici Lab Filton and Bradley Stoke

    Acknowledges the vital role of taxi drivers in communities, particularly for vulnerable individuals such as students or those with medical conditions. Supports the legislation to enhance passenger safety and safeguarding measures.

  • Chris Clarkson Con Rochdale

    Clarkson supports the Bill, emphasising its importance for building public confidence in private hire services. He highlights issues like differential licensing standards and the impact of past scandals on ethnic minority drivers' reputations. Clarkson also acknowledges taxi drivers’ essential role during the pandemic and their economic contributions.

  • Craig Williams Con Montgomeryshire

    Williams endorses the Bill, stressing its cross-party support and importance for Welsh constituencies. He calls for extending the database to Wales and mentions the need for robust standards for taxi drivers, including periodic criminal record checks. Williams also underlines the economic reliance on taxis in rural areas.

  • Simon Fell Con North West Norfolk

    Fell supports the Bill's aim to universalise driver disqualification records and enhance public confidence. He references taxi drivers' community roles during crises, highlights his background in data sharing for fraud prevention, and suggests governance improvements for database accuracy.

  • Sally-Ann Hart Con Bexhill and Battle

    Hart praises the Bill’s safeguarding and data-sharing provisions but calls for further police involvement in reporting driver misconduct. She mentions a case where a taxi driver was convicted of theft from an elderly customer without the licensing authority's prior knowledge. Hart also endorses Rother District Council's penalty points scheme as a model for others.

  • Chris Heaton-Harris Con Daventry

    He congratulated Peter Gibson on introducing the Bill, acknowledging its importance in ensuring unsuitable people do not obtain licences to drive taxis and private hire vehicles. He highlighted that the licensing process gives confidence to passengers about driver safety and character.

  • Daniel Zeichner Lab Cambridge

    Although his speech is not detailed in the provided text, he was mentioned as supportive of the Bill. He is noted for driving this debate previously to try to reach a resolution.

  • Mark Jenkinson Con Workington

    He contributed positively towards the debate on ensuring unsuitable people do not obtain licences, emphasising the importance of safeguarding passengers and highlighting examples from his constituency that demonstrate why such measures are necessary.

  • Shaun Bailey Con West Bromwich West

    He added support for the Bill, stressing the importance of stringent licensing processes to protect passengers and prevent unsuitable individuals from operating taxis or private hire vehicles.

  • Robbie Moore Con Keighley

    Contributed positively towards supporting the Bill, focusing on the importance of passenger safety through proper licensing processes and background checks for taxi drivers and PHV operators.

  • Angela Richardson Con Guildford

    Expressed support for the Bill, highlighting its role in enhancing public confidence by ensuring that only suitable individuals obtain licences to operate taxis or private hire vehicles.

  • Dai Lloyd PC Vale of Clwyd

    Acknowledged the importance of the Bill, especially in safeguarding vulnerable groups such as children and disabled individuals from unsuitable taxi drivers or private hire vehicle operators.

  • Simon Baynes Con Clwyd South

    Supported the Bill by emphasising its necessity to protect passengers from unsuitable drivers, stressing the importance of stringent licensing procedures.

  • Lia Nici Lab Great Grimsby

    Contributed positively towards supporting the Bill, highlighting its role in enhancing passenger safety by ensuring proper background checks and preventing unsuitable individuals from operating taxis or private hire vehicles.

  • Chris Clarkson Con Heywood and Middleton

    Expressed support for the Bill, noting its importance in safeguarding passengers through stringent licensing processes that prevent unsuitable individuals from obtaining licences to drive taxis or private hire vehicles.

  • Craig Williams Con Montgomeryshire

    Contributed positively towards supporting the Bill, emphasising its role in enhancing public confidence by ensuring that only suitable individuals obtain licences to operate taxis or private hire vehicles, thus protecting vulnerable passengers.

  • Simon Fell Con Barrow and Furness

    Supported the Bill, highlighting its importance in safeguarding passengers through stringent licensing processes that prevent unsuitable individuals from obtaining licences to drive taxis or private hire vehicles.

  • Sally-Ann Hart Con Hastings and Rye

    Contributed positively towards supporting the Bill, emphasising its role in enhancing passenger safety by ensuring proper background checks and preventing unsuitable individuals from operating taxis or private hire vehicles.

  • Sam Tarry Lab Ilford South

    Called for 'proper legislation' similar to what the Bill proposes, highlighting its importance in safeguarding passengers and preventing unsuitable individuals from obtaining licences to drive taxis or private hire vehicles.

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