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Trade Bill - After Clause 2 - Trade agreements and genocide

22 March 2021 · 21 other contributors

Opened by Greg Hands Con Hammersmith

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At a glance

Greg Hands raised concerns about trade bill - after clause 2 - trade agreements and genocide in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Government supports amendment proposed by Member for Bromley and Chislehurst
  • Amendment ensures Government records position in writing on credible genocide reports
  • Minister argued for Government amendment supporting parliamentary scrutiny in such cases

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Greg Hands Con Hammersmith

The Government supports the amendment proposed by my hon. Friend the Member for Bromley and Chislehurst, which ensures that the Government must put their position on record in writing when credible reports of genocide are raised concerning a country with which we propose a free trade agreement. This allows the Select Committee to draft a motion for debate if not satisfied with the response, providing significant control over the process without changing settled Government policy. The amendment does not make determinations on whether genocide has occurred but guarantees scrutiny and debate where credible reports exist.

Other contributors (21)
  • Rosie Winterton Lab Sheffield Central

    Noted that financial privilege is engaged by Lords amendment 3E. No position was taken on the bill or amendments.

  • Greg Hands Con Hammersmith

    Argued in favour of the Government's amendment that supports a process ensuring parliamentary scrutiny and debate when credible reports of genocide are raised concerning proposed free trade agreements. Emphasised that this does not make determinations on genocide but guarantees debate where necessary.

  • Nusrat Ghani Con Sussex Weald

    Intervened to question if the Government was misrepresenting the situation regarding parliamentary judicial committees. Suggested that there is a contradiction in opposing both outside courts and parliamentarians making determinations.

  • Julian Lewis Con New Forest East

    Intervened to point out a potential inconsistency in Government's objections regarding judicial determination of genocide, suggesting that both external courts and parliamentary committees are being opposed.

  • Emily Thornberry Lab Islington South and Finsbury

    Argues that trade deals should not ignore human rights considerations, particularly in light of atrocities committed against the Uyghur population by China. References genocide charges as a reason to reject trade agreements.

  • Iain Duncan Smith Con Chingford and Woodford Green

    Supports the amendment, criticising the Government for their stance on the quasi-judicial committee. Argues that the Government's definition of 'quasi-judicial' can be applied to any Select Committee in the House of Commons, undermining the integrity of the proposed arrangement.

  • Tim Loughton Con Wealden

    Intervenes briefly during Iain Duncan Smith's speech to highlight that Uyghurs do not come under the remit of the Government’s amendment, and therefore would be given no protection by this House.

  • Drew Hendry Lab Inverness N & Ross

    Noted but does not provide arguments or stance.

  • Rosie Winterton Lab Stockport

    Clarifies the procedural aspect of speech timing, stating it is a mistake if the countdown timer is running. Does not contribute to the debate on the amendment.

  • Liam Fox Con North Somerset

    Supports the Government's position by arguing against making generic law based on specific cases, highlights that the House can already vote down any free trade agreement through existing legislation and upholds democratic principles.

  • Nusrat Ghani Con Sussex Weald

    The speaker supports Lord Alton’s amendment as it ensures a consistent approach to genocide without excluding the Uyghurs. She highlights the severity of human rights abuses against the Uyghur community, including forced sterilisation and birth rate drops, underscoring the need for decisive action.

  • Shabana Mahmood Lab Birmingham Ladywood

    The speaker criticises the Government's reluctance to acknowledge genocide as a political issue and highlights their hypocrisy in avoiding judicial determination due to China’s veto. She supports Lord Alton’s amendment for its practical approach, urging Members to vote for it despite procedural difficulties.

  • The speaker supports the Government's position that judicial determination should rest with competent courts. She emphasises the need for practical methods in upholding human rights and argues that the amendment would undermine parliamentary confidence by involving High Court challenges.

  • Sarah Olney Lib Dem Richmond Park

    The speaker supports Lord Alton’s amendment as a clear statement against trade deals with genocidal states. She criticises the Government for not leveraging trade power to demand human rights improvements from trading partners and urges them to listen to cross-party voices.

  • Bob Neill Con Bromley and Chislehurst

    Critiques the amendment for being constitutionally inaccurate, arguing that former judges should not sit on a parliamentary committee as judges but as members of Parliament. Proposes using Standing Orders to set up a Joint Committee instead.

  • Emily Thornberry Lab Islington South and Finsbury

    Intervenes, highlighting the concern that Select Committees may not have sufficient expertise to determine genocide and suggests that former judges would be better suited.

  • Ian Paisley Jnr DUP North Antrim

    Intervenes, notes the contradiction of his amendment with the Government's position but does not provide detailed arguments against the current amendment.

  • Marie Rimmer Lab St Helens South and Whiston

    Supports the amendment, emphasising the moral obligation to prevent complicity with genocidal regimes. Argues that international courts are ineffective due to China's veto power and urges Members to vote based on conscience.

  • Geraint Davies Lab Swansea West

    Advocates for Parliament's role in deciding trade deals based on evidence of genocide. Criticises the Government's evasion and argues that Parliament should consider values over economic interests.

  • Paul Howell Con Sleaford and North Hykeham

    Supports the need for parliamentary scrutiny but questions if this amendment is the right mechanism. Acknowledges the difficulty in proving genocide and supports a lower level of proof to stimulate intervention.

  • Greg Hands Con Hove

    The amendment creates a Parliamentary Judicial Committee which is constitutionally illiterate and would undermine the judiciary. The Trade Bill does not cover human rights issues related to Xinjiang; such matters should be addressed through foreign policy measures.

Government Response

The Minister argued for the Government’s amendment supporting parliamentary scrutiny when credible reports of genocide arise in free trade agreement contexts. He stated that this ensures debate without making judicial determinations, aligning with Government policy and maintaining legislative flexibility.

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