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House of Commons · General Debate

Children and Young Persons

10 June 2020 · 19 other contributors

Opened by Rebecca Long-Bailey Lab Salford

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Rebecca Long-Bailey raised concerns about children and young persons in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Moves to annul the Adoption and Children (Coronavirus) (Amendment) Regulations 2020 are under debate due to concerns over relaxed safeguarding for children in care.
  • Criticism of the regulations for potential adverse impact on vulnerable children during the pandemic has been raised by multiple organisations and individuals.
  • The Minister clarified that primary legislation remains intact and changes were made to support local authorities without removing fundamental protections under the Children Act 1989.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Rebecca Long-Bailey Lab Salford

Moves to annul the Adoption and Children (Coronavirus) (Amendment) Regulations 2020, arguing that they relax safeguarding responsibilities for children in care. The regulations have been criticised by multiple organisations and individuals for their potential adverse impact on vulnerable children during the pandemic.

Other contributors (19)
  • Rebecca Long-Bailey Lab Salford

    The Labour party opposes these regulations due to significant changes that relax statutory protections for children in care, including reduced visitation requirements and optional independent panels. These could lead to negative outcomes such as higher risk of abuse and poorer educational attainment.

  • Multiple members rose to speak but their contributions are not detailed in the provided text.

  • Tim Loughton Con Horsham

    While not opposing the regulations outright, Tim Loughton questions the lack of consultation with key organisations such as the Children’s Commissioner, British Association of Social Workers, and Ofsted. He highlights that these important regulations came into effect on 24 April without following normal conventions about a 21-day rule for scrutiny.

  • Munira Wilson Lib Dem Twickenham

    Munira Wilson rose to speak but her contribution was cut off, so no position is available in the given text.

  • Tim Loughton Con East Worthing and Shoreham

    Expresses concern over emergency regulations introduced for vulnerable children during the pandemic. Questions why these measures were necessary only in England, pointing to potential issues with social worker absences, capacity, and reprioritisation of resources. Asks for details on how current vacancy rates affect service provision and raises concerns about the impact of county lines gangs exploiting the situation. Emphasises the importance of checks and balances, especially when dealing with vulnerable children who cannot provide scrutiny themselves.

  • Steve McCabe Lab Small Heath

    McCabe expressed concerns over reduced safeguards for children's services during the pandemic, questioning the logic behind fewer safeguards compared to adult services. He also inquired about the removal of six-monthly reviews and senior-level approval for out-of-area placements, suggesting these measures might lead to further privatisation of children’s services.

  • Matt Rodda Lab Reading Central

    Rodda echoed concerns raised by his colleagues regarding the administration of vulnerable people's services during a crisis. He argued that this statutory instrument was part of a broader mishandling of issues related to children, which reflects poorly on the Government.

  • Steve McCabe Lab Small Heath

    McCabe reiterated his scepticism about the temporary nature of these emergency regulations and asked for more transparency from the Minister regarding future plans after 25 September.

  • David Simmonds Con Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner

    Simmonds defended the measures as reasonable and proportionate during a national emergency. He highlighted that the regulations aim to reduce burdens on foster carers while maintaining necessary requirements, potentially increasing the speed of placements for vulnerable children.

  • Kim Johnson Lab Liverpool Riverside

    The number of looked-after children continues to rise; there were over 78,000 children in care nationally last year, a 4% rise on the previous year and a shocking 30% rise since 2010. In my home city of Liverpool, there are nearly 1,500 vulnerable children in care who need these protections, including 115 unaccompanied child asylum seekers—double the rate of the national percentage. This represents a rise on last year, with additional numbers coming under the protection of social services during this pandemic.

  • I want to reflect on this matter from the point of view of some work that I did last year. I spent some time training with foster care leavers and one thing that came across to me was the fact that they had several parts to their personality—this is not just a broad-brush thing. There was immense ambition and an immense wish to have a normal life, but the problem was that, often, the confidence was not there. They felt let down and abandoned, which means that the challenge for the system is to ensure that there is a consistency in their lives and an ability for their lives to move.

  • Munira Wilson Lib Dem Twickenham

    The hon. Gentleman talks about the machinery. Indeed, the Children’s Commissioner has expressed concern that the starting point for these regulations is to ease pressure on services, rather than to think about what is right for the child in front of those services. These are the most vulnerable children—even more vulnerable at a time like this.

  • Janet Daby Lab Lewisham East

    We have come so far with children’s rights, why are we going backwards? Those are not my words. They are the words of Charlotte, a 19-year-old care leaver. I start with those words because it is young people in care and those entering care who are directly affected by this legislation and yet it is the same young people who have been denied a say, as their rights have been ripped away. They were not consulted.

  • Ruth Jones Lab Newport West and Islwyn

    I am pleased to address the vital topic of child protection and social care, emphasising that the proposed regulations will undermine safeguarding protections for vulnerable children without sufficient justification or parliamentary scrutiny. The regulations are unnecessary and could harm children's rights. In contrast to England, Wales has issued guidance allowing local authorities to innovate while meeting statutory duties in children’s social care. I urge the Minister to reconsider these sweeping changes to foster care that cause concern among professionals.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    I support the initial intentions of the regulations but argue they have fallen short, particularly in terms of contact between social workers and children. I highlight a teacher's proactive efforts to maintain connections with vulnerable students during lockdown as an example that applies equally to social workers. The removal of statutory duties for direct contact undermines support for foster families and newly-placed adopters who face increased isolation and stress due to the pandemic.

  • Emma Lewell-Buck Lab South Shields

    The Minister has not addressed questions about the children affected by changes made during the pandemic.

  • Munira Wilson Lib Dem Twickenham

    Asked why standards for children are lesser than those for adults under statutory duties easing, and suggested publishing data on local authorities that use easements to scrutinise their actions.

  • The regulations were introduced to prepare for potential staff absences and increased demand on services due to the pandemic, ensuring minimal delays in adoption or fostering processes. Flexibilities include allowing temporary foster carers who are properly assessed and providing more time for local authorities to respond to formal reports. The scope for consultation was limited but views of organisations influenced the regulations. The annual limit of 75 days for short-break placements remains intact despite suggestions otherwise, and social workers must continue to meet statutory timescales or justify deviations under strict scrutiny. Decisions on placing a child outside their local area are still subject to thorough assessment by the local authority.

  • Called for clarity in voting and informed Members that a Division would be held on Motion 5 regarding the Order Paper. Emphasised the need for clear communication during the voting process to ensure accurate recording of votes.

Government Response

The Minister responded by clarifying that the safeguards for adult social care differ from children’s due to different statutory frameworks. The primary legislation remains intact, and changes were made only to support local authorities without removing fundamental protections. Local authorities still have a duty to safeguard and promote welfare under section 22 of the Children Act 1989.

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