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House of Commons · General Debate

BACKBENCH BUSINESS

14 April 2016 · 38 other contributors

Opened by David Davis Con Goole and Pocklington

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

David Davis raised concerns about backbench business in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Calls on the Government to conclude National Security checks on the Iraq Inquiry report by 18 April 2016
  • Criticises delays in the publication of the report for their impact on foreign policy decisions since 2003
  • Minister provided assurances about the timeline and process for the report's publication, stressing its independence and imminent release

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

David Davis Con Goole and Pocklington

Calls on the Government to conclude National Security checks on the Iraq Inquiry report as soon as possible before 18 April 2016, emphasising the war's detrimental impacts such as civilian casualties, financial costs, and political instability. Criticises delays in publication, highlighting their impact on foreign policy decisions since 2003.

Other contributors (38)
  • Graham Allen Lab Nottingham North

    Agrees with the right hon. Member that the Iraq war was a significant miscalculation and emphasises the long-term negative consequences of the war, including ongoing Islamic extremism and violence.

  • David Davis Con Goole and Pocklington

    Responds to the hon. Member's concerns by acknowledging that Islamic extremism is a persistent issue with an increasing arrival rate of jihadists in Europe. Reiterates the importance of understanding complex international issues before making decisions.

  • Andrew Mitchell Con Sutton Coldfield

    Mitchell supported Davis's argument, highlighting the importance of understanding how the mechanism of government worked leading up to the decision to go to war.

  • Pete Wishart SNP Perth and Kinross-shire

    Wishart focused on the personal responsibility of Tony Blair, suggesting that he should be held accountable for his role in leading the country into war.

  • Graham Allen Lab Nottingham North

    Allen pointed out that a majority within Labour rebelled against their own Government's decision to go to war and emphasised the disastrous impact of the war, both domestically and internationally.

  • Liz Saville-Roberts PC Dwyfor Meirionnydd

    Saville-Roberts stressed that families affected by the war deserve answers, advocating for minimal redactions in the report to avoid any suggestion of a cover-up.

  • Paul Flynn Lab Montgomeryshire

    Mr Flynn agreed with every word from Mr Davis and congratulated him on obtaining the debate. He highlighted how the decision to go to war in Iraq was a mistake, leading to significant suffering for soldiers and their families. He also mentioned the need for another inquiry into the 2006 Helmand invasion decision.

  • Graham Allen Lab Nottingham North

    Mr Allen supported publication as necessary to purge Labour of its fault line around the Iraq war and clear the reputation of former Prime Minister Tony Blair, who is often seen as responsible for taking the UK into war with America against many colleagues' wishes.

  • Gerald Howarth Con Aldershot

    Mr Howarth agreed that publication was necessary and highlighted the delay in establishing an inquiry, which prevented proper discussion of post-conflict reconstruction. He outlined three reasons why an independent committee established by the Government should have conducted a comprehensive inquiry.

  • Jim Cunningham Lab Coventry South

    Mr Cunningham argued that no lessons were learned from previous interventions, citing Libya and Egypt as examples of poor post-war reconstruction planning. He emphasised that such interventions often result in chaos without proper preparation for aftermath.

  • Bob Stewart Con Beckenham

    Mr. Stewart questioned what killed Kurds and marsh Arabs if there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, raising concerns about unanswered questions regarding chemical weapons.

  • Gerald Howarth Con Battersea

    Reiterating his position, Mr. Howarth highlighted the need for a timely inquiry and criticised the current report's expected length of 2.5 million words in 12 volumes as potentially counterproductive.

  • Angus MacNeil SNP Na h-Eileanan an Iar

    Mr. MacNeil argued for immediate publication of the Chilcot report, emphasising the delay's impact on families and the failure to learn lessons from the Iraq War. He also stressed the importance of parliamentary accountability in addressing military actions.

  • David Davis Con Haltemprice and Howden

    Mr. Davis noted that troops want their democratic system to work properly, dismissing arguments against debating or investigating during troop deployment.

  • Angus MacNeil SNP Na h-Eileanan an Iar

    Mr MacNeil discusses the need for a timely release of the Chilcot report, highlighting that over 179 UK lives were lost due to the Iraq war and noting that this figure does not include those injured or psychologically affected. He also mentions the creation of Daesh and emphasises the importance of learning from past mistakes.

  • Graham Allen Labour Party Nottingham North

    Mr Allen agrees with Mr MacNeil, emphasising the ongoing casualties since 2015 due to sectarian violence and internecine warfare that escalated following the US invasion of Iraq. He highlights a death toll possibly in the millions.

  • Brendan O'Hara SNP Argyll, Bute and South Lochaber

    Mr O'Hara questions if the EU referendum is causing delays to the Chilcot report's publication. He warns about reputational damage the UK risks due to these delays.

  • Mark Durkan SDLP South Antrim

    Mr Durkan expresses doubt about John Chilcot’s ability to be independent, citing previous work that he believes has been more favorable towards security services than expected. He suggests the idea of needing national security checks is preposterous.

  • Adam Holloway Con West Worcestershire

    The publication delay is detrimental to national security and undermines the inquiry's credibility. The report should address how Britain got embroiled in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria, highlighting leadership failures and dysfunctional governance. There has been a lack of understanding among politicians regarding complex realities on the ground, coupled with an overly optimistic approach by civil servants and military officials.

  • Paul Flynn Lab Ceredigion

    Agrees with Adam Holloway's assertion that there was deception about the nature of the Afghan conflict. Questions whether soldiers were misled about the purpose of their deployment and whether the Taliban were only interested in fighting due to NATO presence.

  • David Davis Con Goole and Pocklington

    The MP agrees with the speaker's criticisms, noting that questions were raised before the Iraq war but went unanswered. He shares an anecdote about a regimental colleague who expressed dissatisfaction with pre-war planning.

  • Bob Stewart Con Beckenham

    The MP acknowledges the historical lessons from military interventions and suggests that the allies should have understood these lessons during the Iraq war. He also agrees to speak anecdotally about his experiences, hinting at a personal story of taking decisive action in Bosnia despite potential career risks.

  • Gerald Howarth Con Aldershot

    The MP supports the speaker's points on military commanders needing to speak truthfully and defends the decision to intervene in Libya, arguing it was necessary to prevent a genocide in Benghazi. He also acknowledges the mistake of proceeding with regime change.

  • Douglas Chapman Lab Cannock Chase

    The MP criticises the delay in publishing the Chilcot report and its potential redaction, expressing frustration on behalf of constituents. He argues for a strategic re-evaluation of foreign policy to avoid future 'rabbit hole' situations.

  • Bob Stewart Con Beckenham

    Mr. Bob Stewart shared his personal experience during the Iraq War, highlighting the supportive reaction from the public and politicians after a controversial press conference where he ordered his men to open fire in self-defence.

  • Tom Brake LD Carshalton and Wallington

    The hon. Member for Carshalton and Wallington recalled that when Charles Kennedy was leader of the Liberal Democrats, they unanimously voted against the Iraq war. He cited various statistics about casualties from the conflict and emphasised the importance of the Chilcot inquiry report in identifying lessons to be learned.

  • Mr. Roger Mullin questioned the process of Maxwellisation, suggesting that it may not be appropriate for future inquiries as it allows individuals to challenge interpretations rather than simply commenting on facts.

  • Steven Paterson Lab Derby North

    I congratulate the right hon. Member for Haltemprice and Howden on securing the debate, as well as those who signed the motion. I signal my wholehearted support for the aspirations of the motion; namely that security checking of the Iraq inquiry report should be completed as soon as possible and that no later than two weeks after the report is submitted to the Government next Monday, 18 April, it should be published. This week, I attempted to table a question for Defence questions next Monday on the timing of the Chilcot inquiry, but was told by the Table Office that it was not appropriate—as the inquiry was independent of Government, that was not an acceptable question to ask the Government. The publication of this report is clearly to be delayed beyond the time necessary for appropriate security checking, if it is going to be delayed, for entirely political reasons. This delay is wholly unacceptable, and the Government need fundamentally to rethink it. If the inquiry was essential in June 2009 for strengthening our democracy, diplomacy and military, then these lessons have still not been learned as the report has not yet been published. The inquiry cannot be fully independent of Government if the timing of its release is controlled by the Government, especially if the delay until after the referendum is intended to give the Government an electoral advantage. Security checks are necessary to ensure that the report does not disclose information detrimental to our national security, but it should not take nine weeks and one day as was suggested last October. The war caused at least 134,000 Iraqi civilian deaths and claimed the lives of 179 British soldiers, leaving a fertile breeding ground for terrorist fanatics. It is an insult to families who have waited almost seven years for this report and it is high time they were given answers.

  • Chris Stephens SNP Glasgow North West

    I thank all right hon. and hon. Members who have spoken so far, including the right hon. Member for Haltemprice and Howden who led the debate. Since I was elected last May, I have raised the issue of delays to the publication of the Chilcot inquiry. In my maiden speech, I said that I am here to give a voice to the voiceless, especially military families like Mrs Rose Gentle whose son Gordon died in Iraq in 2004 at age 19. They want answers on whether they were provided with proper equipment and why our forces were there in the first place. In response to last year’s request to publish by the end of 2015, Sir John Chilcot threatened them with legal costs if they took him to court. This is a disgraceful and insensitive thing to say to military families who have lost loved ones. Rose Gentle feels disgust at the delays caused by national security and Maxwellisation. Delays now cause a total loss of faith in what the inquiry produces, putting undue pressure on military families who want the truth.

  • Bob Stewart Con Beckenham

    What military families feel could be summed up by saying that the longer the process takes, the more jiggery-pokery they think is going on with the results of the inquiry. If we continue like this, there will be a total loss of faith in what it produces.

  • Chris Stephens SNP Glasgow North West

    Indeed, and I am sure the military families watching these proceedings will agree with the hon. Gentleman. The length of time this inquiry has taken has put undue pressure on military families who want the truth. They are proud of their loved ones who served but are disgusted with the Government and the Government process. Rose Gentle’s family feel that the military covenant has been not just broken, but shattered. Their loved ones have been buried twice—once after their death, and twice by bureaucracy and evasion. The Prime Minister wrote to Chilcot asking for clear deadlines and publication. Further delays are not acceptable. Rose Gentle is an inspiration to many and she requests justice for the military families who lost their loved ones serving in Iraq. The Chilcot report must be published in the first week of May 2016.

  • Martin Docherty SNP West Dunbartonshire

    Emphasises that the invasion was immoral and illegal, citing public protests and questioning the war’s legality. He discusses the impact on diplomatic capabilities and military leadership due to delays in publishing the Chilcot report. Martin Docherty also mentions the importance of obtaining accurate intelligence and criticises over-reliance on local information.

  • Wayne David Lab Caerphilly

    Welcomes the debate, acknowledging its significance and thanking members who proposed it. He notes that Labour established the inquiry in 2009, deciding to begin only after British combat troops left Iraq.

  • Gerald Howarth Con Aldershot

    Questions Wayne David on his party's stance, highlighting inconsistencies between different Labour MPs' votes and current views regarding the war.

  • Wayne David Lab Caerphilly

    Acknowledged the report's delay, citing national security concerns but stressed urgency; highlighted the need to learn lessons from the Iraq War and provide closure for families of soldiers.

  • John Penrose Con Brighton Kemptown

    Provided assurances about the timeline for publication after national security checks, promising that government’s contribution will be completed within two weeks. Emphasised that Sir John Chilcot retains control over final report preparation.

  • Tom Brake LD Carshalton and Wallington

    Asked the Minister to assure implementation of any recommendations from the Chilcot inquiry aimed at improving transparency in decision-making for future military commitments.

  • David Davis Con Goole and Pocklington

    Davis stated that every speech in the debate was well-informed and passionate. He argued that publication of the Chilcot Report should happen as soon as possible, no later than two weeks after 18 April 2016, to honour the families who have lost loved ones due to the Iraq War.

Government Response

Provided detailed assurances about the timeline and process, emphasising that national security checks are legal obligations. Stressed the independence of Sir John Chilcot's report and assured that it will be published as soon as possible after final preparations.

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