Commons Sense

House of Commons · General Debate

Apprenticeships

10 March 2016 · 43 other contributors

Opened by Nicholas Boles Con 011:57:00

Summarised by AI from the official record, so it can contain mistakes.

At a glance

Nicholas Boles raised concerns about apprenticeships in the House of Commons. A government minister responded. Other MPs also contributed.

Key points

  • Apprenticeships are seen as a powerful tool for social mobility and productivity growth.
  • Apprenticeships lead to higher pay, with an average income increase of 11% for level 2 apprentices and 16% for level 3 apprentices three to five years later.
  • The Government plans to increase the number of apprentices in England to 3 million by 2020 through a new levy on larger employers.

How the debate unfolded

MPs spoke in turn to share their views and ask questions. Here's what each person said.

Opened the debate

Nicholas Boles Con 011:57:00

We believe in apprenticeships, as they are a powerful motor of social mobility and productivity growth. Apprenticeships offer higher pay and personal fulfilment to those who undertake them, raising incomes by an average of 11% for level 2 apprentices and 16% for level 3 apprentices three to five years later. The Government aims to increase the number of apprentices in England from 2.4 million to 3 million by 2020 through a new levy on larger employers, with spending on apprenticeships rising to £2.5 billion in 2019-20. A public sector target for employing more apprentices will be introduced, along with procurement rules requiring bidders for Government contracts to commit to apprenticeships.

Other contributors (43)
  • Gordon Marsden 011:57:00

    The Minister's statement is lacking in detail and fails to address the concerns of universities, local government, and businesses about the new levy. The Labour Government established National Apprenticeship Week and the National Apprenticeship Service. Questions remain about whether the levy will be extra money or a substitute for existing funding, and how it will affect small and medium-sized enterprises. Concerns are also raised regarding the quality of apprenticeships and supervision of the levy's operation.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    In response to criticism about the new apprenticeship programme, the Minister clarified that spending on apprenticeship training in England will rise from £1 billion in 2010 to £1.5 billion now and £2.5 billion by the end of this Parliament. The levy is expected to raise £3 billion in 2019-20, with £500 million allocated to devolved administrations for their apprenticeship programmes. Small and medium-sized enterprises will continue receiving Government funding for apprenticeships as before, while larger businesses that pay the levy can expect to benefit from improved standards and quality control.

  • Wendy Morton Con Aldridge-Brownhills

    The Minister was asked about the success of apprenticeship programmes in Aldridge-Brownhills, where over 4,000 apprenticeships have been created since the election. She requested that the Government continue to support the public sector's role in providing new opportunities for young people and women through apprenticeships.

  • Ronnie Cowan SNP Glasgow North West

    The speaker expressed concerns about the timing of the apprenticeship levy statement, questioning its method and sustainability. He highlighted issues with encroaching on devolved responsibilities in Scotland and criticised the levy's economic impact on employers. He also raised a specific concern about Police Scotland's financial burden.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    Minister responded to concerns by emphasising the positive intentions behind the apprenticeship levy and hoped that Scottish Governments would increase their commitment based on extra revenue from the levy. He addressed specific issues raised, such as those affecting Police Scotland, stating that it was not a primary concern.

  • Richard Drax Con Waveney

    Speaker acknowledged the new principal at Weymouth College and expressed some reservations about levies. He suggested that if a 'socialist Government' took over, they might increase taxation for other reasons.

  • Iain Wright Lab Hartlepool

    Speaker inquired about the public sector apprenticeship target mentioned in the Enterprise Bill and sought more clarity on the levy's impact on employers who will not pay it. He urged for greater transparency to ensure the success of the 3 million apprenticeship target.

  • Chloe Smith Con Great Yarmouth

    Speaker supported the Minister in looking to increase quality by asking employers to make their own choices through the Digital Apprenticeship Service and requested an update on its progress.

  • Andrew Gwynne Ind Gorton and Denton

    Speaker welcomed the Government’s use of public procurement rules for apprenticeships, inquiring about the mechanics behind it, specifically how bidders would demonstrate their commitment to apprenticeships.

  • Jack Lopresti Con Filton and Bradley Stoke

    Speaker congratulated the Minister on his statement and highlighted the valuable role of apprenticeships in protecting the country through enhancing defence capabilities and offering a large number within armed forces.

  • Stephen Timms Lab East Ham

    Speaker acknowledged the Labour Government's contribution to saving apprenticeships and questioned whether the 3 million target would be met without reducing quality. He requested reassurance on this point.

  • David Nuttall Con Bury North

    Speaker inquired about the Institute for Apprenticeships' role in resolving potential problems with apprenticeships, asking when it would be operational.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    The Institute for Apprenticeships will come into being in a shadow form this spring, with responsibilities taking over gradually. Specific complaints about training provision will be handled by Ofsted and the Skills Funding Agency, while broader issues will fall under the Institute's purview.

  • Jim Shannon DUP Strangford

    Expressed concern regarding 1,080 job losses at Bombardier in Northern Ireland and the impact on its apprenticeship programme. Inquired about discussions with Northern Ireland counterparts for cooperation on engineering and manufacturing apprenticeships.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    Confirmed meetings have been held with devolved Administrations' Ministers to discuss apprenticeships, committing to ongoing biannual meetings to share best practices and ensure the levy boosts apprenticeship activity across all UK regions.

  • Henry Smith 011:57:00

    Complimented the Minister's statement. Mentioned hosting an apprenticeship and jobs fair, thanking sponsors for their contributions to the sector.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    Acknowledged that apprenticeships are expanding beyond traditional industries like construction or engineering; mentioned possibilities of future higher-level apprentice roles such as apprentice lawyers, accountants, and digital creators.

  • Inquired about the availability of apprenticeship opportunities at levels 4 and above. Recognised previous Labour Government efforts to revive apprenticeships, advocating for a non-partisan approach.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    Confirmed the need for more higher and degree apprenticeships but noted progress with 19,800 starts on higher apprenticeships in 2014-15 and over a thousand starting degree apprenticeships. Acknowledged Labour's contributions to reviving apprenticeships.

  • Martin Vickers Con Brigg and Immingham

    Asked for confirmation of the Government’s commitment to providing young people in his region opportunities related to jobs being created in the offshore wind sector.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    Reaffirmed commitment to establishing a national college for wind energy, pending readiness of partners. Emphasised importance of colleges securing funding through apprenticeships.

  • Tom Brake 011:57:00

    Praised Callum Morton's contribution and Vince Cable's role in government. Inquired about the inclusion of bonuses paid to employee owners under the payroll levy, questioning potential disincentive for employee-owned companies.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    Acknowledged Vince Cable’s contribution and provided a general response on PAYE pay inclusion under the levy, promising to provide more detailed information in writing.

  • Kelly Tolhurst 011:57:00

    Celebrated achievements in Rochester and Strood regarding apprenticeships. Asked for assurance that the Government will work with colleges to ensure adequate provision and development of apprenticeship programmes.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    Acknowledged Kelly Tolhurst's achievements, committed to supporting colleges in securing more funding for apprenticeships.

  • David Simpson 011:57:00

    Welcomed the statement and highlighted efforts by further education colleges in his constituency. Inquired about frequency of meetings between Department officials and businesses/colleges to encourage more apprenticeships across UK.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    Acknowledged frequent meetings with business and colleges in England, committed to ensuring seamless apprenticeship standards recognition across the UK through collaboration with devolved Administrations.

  • Rishi Sunak Con Richmond and Northallerton

    Welcomed the Minister's passion for spreading opportunity via apprenticeships. Complimented ancient company of fellmongers for supporting local apprenticeships, encouraging Richmond to continue excelling in this area.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    Acknowledged the curiosity and importance of diverse occupations like fellmongering and the creation of apprenticeship opportunities within these trades.

  • Peter Kyle Lab Hove and Portslade

    Highlighted a survey showing only 9% of young people doing level 2 qualifications were doing so for the first time, questioning compatibility with social mobility goals set by the Minister.

  • Nicholas Boles 011:57:00

    Acknowledged issues with course completion rates and inappropriate courses. Emphasised work through Lord Sainsbury's panel to establish clearer routes for technical education aimed at reducing dropout rates.

  • Amanda Milling Con Cannock Chase

    Acknowledges the creation of 370 new apprenticeships in her constituency and emphasises the importance of involving employers from various sectors to ensure that apprentices acquire the skills desired by businesses.

  • Nicholas Boles Con Grantham and Stamford

    Agrees with Amanda Milling about the importance of employer involvement in setting apprentice standards, stressing the need for inclusion of small and medium-sized enterprises to cater to diverse industry needs. Confirms that £3 billion will be raised from the apprenticeship levy in 2019-20, with £2.5 billion allocated towards English apprenticeships.

  • Margaret Ritchie SDLP South Down

    Asks for an estimate of the funds likely to be allocated from the apprenticeship levy increase to the Northern Ireland Executive.

  • Rebecca Pow Con Taunton Deane

    Supports the Government's promotion of apprenticeships and discusses her efforts in organising events to raise awareness about their benefits, inviting Minister Boles to participate.

  • Liz McInnes Lab Heywood and Middleton

    Queries whether the imposition of large student loans is a valid justification for choosing apprenticeships over university studies. Suggests reconsidering replacing maintenance grants with loans as an alternative approach to alleviate loan burdens.

  • Nicholas Boles Con Grantham and Stamford

    Responds that the Government's policy is designed to offer students a choice between full-time university studies or apprenticeships, highlighting that student loans are only repaid if earnings exceed £21,000. Proposes flexibility in seasonal industries by allowing for 15-month apprenticeship periods.

  • Nigel Huddleston Con Droitwich and Evesham

    Inquires about progress made to encourage apprenticeships in highly seasonal sectors such as farming and tourism.

  • Gavin Robinson DUP Belfast East

    Raises concerns about the completion rate of apprenticeships in long-term projects, questioning how to ensure sustained commitment from employers.

  • Karin Smyth Lab Bristol South

    Expresses support for apprenticeships as a key pathway for young people's aspirations. Questions the Minister about forthcoming details of the levy and delivery plans.

  • Andrea Jenkyns Con Morley and Outwood

    Announces an ambitious target of creating 50 new apprenticeships in her constituency within 50 days, seeking support from the Minister for this initiative.

  • Royston Smith Lab Great Yarmouth

    Praises businesses in his constituency contributing to apprenticeship opportunities and congratulates those who create such roles.

  • Mims Davies Con East Grinstead and Uckfield

    Welcomes the Minister's statement on National Apprenticeship Week and highlights initiatives promoting female participation in traditionally male-focused apprenticeships.

Government Response

Minister responded to various concerns by emphasising positive intentions behind the levy and provided reassurances on its economic impact, public sector targets, digital service progress, and quality standards. He also addressed specific issues like those affecting Police Scotland. Responds to various queries, affirming commitment to employer-led standards development, provision of funds based on levy contributions, addressing seasonal industry needs, ensuring apprenticeship completion, and promoting diverse participation.

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